Pretty sure America is the most obvious place this would be referencing.
It has to be a FPTP country, and it has to be a country with so few possible parties that the choices are bad or worse. Not to mention it has to be a country with free and fair elections.
Elections in the US are far removed from free and fair, especially now we’re past Louisiana v. Callais and SCOTUS can and will veto any efforts by Congress to reform them.
Ellie Mystal pointed out that was a risk of civil war: If congress were to strip SCOTUS of jurisdiction (no longer decides what is Constitutional or not) and the court then responds by saying that law is unconstitutional, the blue states side with Congress while the red states side with the Court, and we have a crisis that cannot be resolved by institutional procedure.
Personally, I’d like to see more of They’ve made their ruling, now let them enforce it. But as we recently saw with the Virginia redistricting referendum, their governor obeyed in advance.
That’s possible, but the US doesn’t have the institutional capacity for civil war. I think that while the possibility of violence is high, actual civil conflict is low.
Civil war will certainly not look like the first one with battle lines, though if we see an interstate conflict, we might see fights over strategic points. The experts I’ve read suggest there would be flash strikes coordinated the way that flash mobs are, only armed.
We certainly have enough firearms to make for a bloody mess.
Sure, but only paralysis or a split of the US military would leave the result in doubt. There just isn’t any group or organization with the capacity to rival the military, or even law enforcement really.
You’re assuming that the military would willingly be deployed in the US against civilians. While that has happened with various state National Guard reserves, it is not legal when it comes to the other branches.
This is not to say they won’t given that plenty of flag officers have been replaced with MAGA loyalists, but doing so would destroy unit cohesion and would risk mutiny. More likely, so long as the US military remains professional (and not conscripts), they’re likely to respond via malicious compliance, much the way parade discipline was lacking during Trump’s birthday parade in 2025.
I’m not in the service, but I’ve heard from many veterans that an attempt to deploy the armed services against US civilians, or to engage in law enforcement action would cause far more problems than it would solve. This is why, when Trump has deployed the Marines on US soil, their duties have been limited to protecting federal buildings and not engaging with civilians, assisting ICE or controlling crowds.
Aren’t you Butch Ware, the Green Party vice presidential nominee and candidate for governor of California, and therefore an American?
Elsewhere in this thread, Gormadt told you to run for office. You said “I did”, and linked to a news story about Butch Ware messing up the paperwork to run for California governor. So it seemed like you were saying you’re Butch Ware, an American.
It’s an outrageous claim, but I am not in the habit of disagreeing with people about who they are. Though I may see fit to question perceived inconsistencies.
Your Americentrism is repugnant. Please keep it in your country.
Pretty sure America is the most obvious place this would be referencing.
It has to be a FPTP country, and it has to be a country with so few possible parties that the choices are bad or worse. Not to mention it has to be a country with free and fair elections.
How many countries fit that bill?
Elections in the US are far removed from free and fair, especially now we’re past Louisiana v. Callais and SCOTUS can and will veto any efforts by Congress to reform them.
SCoTUS has neither a military nor a law enforcement arm. With enough political will there is nothing they can do to stop court reform.
Ellie Mystal pointed out that was a risk of civil war: If congress were to strip SCOTUS of jurisdiction (no longer decides what is Constitutional or not) and the court then responds by saying that law is unconstitutional, the blue states side with Congress while the red states side with the Court, and we have a crisis that cannot be resolved by institutional procedure.
Personally, I’d like to see more of They’ve made their ruling, now let them enforce it. But as we recently saw with the Virginia redistricting referendum, their governor obeyed in advance.
That’s possible, but the US doesn’t have the institutional capacity for civil war. I think that while the possibility of violence is high, actual civil conflict is low.
Civil war will certainly not look like the first one with battle lines, though if we see an interstate conflict, we might see fights over strategic points. The experts I’ve read suggest there would be flash strikes coordinated the way that flash mobs are, only armed.
We certainly have enough firearms to make for a bloody mess.
Sure, but only paralysis or a split of the US military would leave the result in doubt. There just isn’t any group or organization with the capacity to rival the military, or even law enforcement really.
You’re assuming that the military would willingly be deployed in the US against civilians. While that has happened with various state National Guard reserves, it is not legal when it comes to the other branches.
This is not to say they won’t given that plenty of flag officers have been replaced with MAGA loyalists, but doing so would destroy unit cohesion and would risk mutiny. More likely, so long as the US military remains professional (and not conscripts), they’re likely to respond via malicious compliance, much the way parade discipline was lacking during Trump’s birthday parade in 2025.
I’m not in the service, but I’ve heard from many veterans that an attempt to deploy the armed services against US civilians, or to engage in law enforcement action would cause far more problems than it would solve. This is why, when Trump has deployed the Marines on US soil, their duties have been limited to protecting federal buildings and not engaging with civilians, assisting ICE or controlling crowds.
Lol
Scroll up. You’re scaring the Aussies, Bri’ish, & Deutsche in this /c/.
Finding @[email protected] was talking about omnium California midterms took a secondary retort to press.
Ahistorical take, or rhetorical?
Aren’t you Butch Ware, the Green Party vice presidential nominee and candidate for governor of California, and therefore an American?
Elsewhere in this thread, Gormadt told you to run for office. You said “I did”, and linked to a news story about Butch Ware messing up the paperwork to run for California governor. So it seemed like you were saying you’re Butch Ware, an American.
Lol wait is this actually Butch Ware? No shot…
It’s an outrageous claim, but I am not in the habit of disagreeing with people about who they are. Though I may see fit to question perceived inconsistencies.