ML is short for Marxism-Leninism, the ideology developed by Stalin (without the involvement of Marx or Lenin) which recommends purges and genocide to ensure sufficient loyalty to the state while the state guides society towards communism out of the goodness of its heart.
And which says the goodness of the state is ensured because communist dictators and high officials don’t legally own the nation so they have no incentive to exploit anyone for their own benefit or accumulation of power.
According to MLs, North Korea is doing great, withstanding a fierce capitalist onslaught that is corrupting its citizens with promises of food security. I don’t know how they explain the difference with China.
afaik, lemmy.ml was registered to the Mali internet domain because its founders are MLs and wanted the “.ml”.
Do communists believe in Stalinism, as opposed to Marxism or Leninism, and what is their position in regards to the DPRK? Do they believe the Kim regime is doing just fine, as the person you replied to suggested?
I am genuinely curious since I don’t often have opportunities to have political discussions with communists.
In the west, Stalinist is just a pejorative for marxist-leninists; Stalin was a ML.
Within ML circles tho, there’s more nuance regarding Stalin; there was a split after Stalin’s death; for reasons, under Kruschev the USSR used any pretense to revise history and villify him, some true, most untrue or taken wildly out of context. Even Mao who really didn’t like Stalin and blamed him and the USSR’s support coming with non-materialist, one-size-fits all strings for severe losses incurred during the chinese civil war, was shocked by Kruschev’s actions there. For comparison, even the chinese leaders who essentially coup’d Mao took a more nuanced take on Mao’s legacy.
But nobody calls themselves stalinists.
Regarding the DPRK, I don’t have a take regarding their domestic politics because I don’t have any reliable information about the country as its all filtered through western media or unreliable witnesses who can be imprisoned or executed as spies under SK or US law. Its probably not a great place to live, but without access to their politics and history, there’s not much useful discussion to be had.
The chinese people I’ve asked who’ve been there were depressingly uncurious and just had cool vacation photos.
Ah, I see. It refers to the lemmy.ml instance, I take it?
ML is short for Marxism-Leninism, the ideology developed by Stalin (without the involvement of Marx or Lenin) which recommends purges and genocide to ensure sufficient loyalty to the state while the state guides society towards communism out of the goodness of its heart.
And which says the goodness of the state is ensured because communist dictators and high officials don’t legally own the nation so they have no incentive to exploit anyone for their own benefit or accumulation of power.
According to MLs, North Korea is doing great, withstanding a fierce capitalist onslaught that is corrupting its citizens with promises of food security. I don’t know how they explain the difference with China.
afaik, lemmy.ml was registered to the Mali internet domain because its founders are MLs and wanted the “.ml”.
Just making shit up when you can ask hundreds of communists.
Do communists believe in Stalinism, as opposed to Marxism or Leninism, and what is their position in regards to the DPRK? Do they believe the Kim regime is doing just fine, as the person you replied to suggested?
I am genuinely curious since I don’t often have opportunities to have political discussions with communists.
In the west, Stalinist is just a pejorative for marxist-leninists; Stalin was a ML.
Within ML circles tho, there’s more nuance regarding Stalin; there was a split after Stalin’s death; for reasons, under Kruschev the USSR used any pretense to revise history and villify him, some true, most untrue or taken wildly out of context. Even Mao who really didn’t like Stalin and blamed him and the USSR’s support coming with non-materialist, one-size-fits all strings for severe losses incurred during the chinese civil war, was shocked by Kruschev’s actions there. For comparison, even the chinese leaders who essentially coup’d Mao took a more nuanced take on Mao’s legacy.
But nobody calls themselves stalinists.
Regarding the DPRK, I don’t have a take regarding their domestic politics because I don’t have any reliable information about the country as its all filtered through western media or unreliable witnesses who can be imprisoned or executed as spies under SK or US law. Its probably not a great place to live, but without access to their politics and history, there’s not much useful discussion to be had.
The chinese people I’ve asked who’ve been there were depressingly uncurious and just had cool vacation photos.