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Cake day: February 21st, 2026

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  • Eh?

    Do I need to say more than “Russia is evil”?

    I tend to assume people are saying what they are meaning. OP said “Islam is so tolerant” (sarcastically, implying the opposite) not “muslims are so tolerant”.

    Language has meaning. In my country, statement no. 1 is constitutionally protected expression (criticism of a religion, whether in speech or print - originally implemented to prevent the church from censuring people) whilst statement no. 2 might get you dinged for “agitating against a demographic”.

    I also encourage you to look into how Bedouins treated women before Islam. Or anyone for that matter, it was often unpleasant to be a part of their society and Islam made their lives better.

    As mentioned, discussion for another day.

    Now I gotta sleep tho but interesting chatting :)

    cya


  • To say Islam is intolerant is to generally claim that Muslims are intolerant.

    Absolutely not. Organized religions, such as Islam and Christianity (or rather, Catholicism, Shia etc.), are themselves power structures perpetuating values.

    Criticizing a religion is no more a criticism of the individual believers than calling a national government (like the Russian one maybe) evil is equivalent to claiming all who share that nationality are evil.

    I would also strongly dispute your claims regarding the history of islam, but don’t have time to take that discussion right now. My statements regarding islam as a religion in the current day I will stand by however.



  • It should be noted that you’re fighting a strawman. The OP was criticizing the religion islam, not muslims as a group, and certainly not making the claim that “all muslims are intolerant”. To clarify, this doesn’t mean other religions are particularly “good” either - it is possible for many things to be bad simultaneously.

    To address your strawman however, I will note that the problems with islam run very deep. The fact is that a majority of muslims, globally, hold views that I would consider, amongst other things, to be misogynistic (feel free to update me on that if there is a more recent global study with the same scope).

    If something is the norm in a group rather than a fringe idea, it can hardly be considered extremism either. Given that islam has many of these misogynistic values close to its’ core, it isn’t particularly shocking either and not too far fetched to attribute a share of the blame to the religion, regressive as it is.

    As such, considering the above, I consider islam to be bad on the whole. Note: this doesn’t mean that someone is inherently “bad” due to being muslim, or that “good” muslims don’t exist - I am acquainted with a few.