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Sure, fuck it, that’s communism. Death to communism, instead we must create a classless stateless society!
You know what my eyes are opened too —capitalism is when hard working Americans get all the capital and communist leeches aren’t allowed to steal it just because they’re in charge.
You know what goes well with capitalism? Democracy! You vote on your sheriff, so why vote for who your boss is at work, and how many sick days everyone gets? Let’s go full capitalist!
Ya know, there might be something to that as a strat.
Words are just tools we made up. If fascists are willing to break the meaning of language to get what they want, maybe we can too!
Down with those communist fascists!!
And we’ll protect our gloriously fought victory with a vanguard enforcing conformity to support the eventual relinquishing of power to the proletariat once there is no longer class and we have expanded our stateless society worldwide, thus vanquishing borders!
Just need to kill off done rabble rousing anarchists first…
I said classless stateless society, not multi level marketing scam.
Look, you just need to build your downstream. I take your bribes and give you some power. Then your downstream bribes you for parts of it. The more downstream you have the more bribes you get. With no borders, the whole world can be your downstream. It’s not upper and lower class, it’s upstream and downstream! See? Classless.
This is unironically how every power structure in the entire human society in the entire history of the world works.
Have you seen these knives? Damn they’re good knives! Can’t afford them? Just buy 10 and selling 9 will pay for yours! Now, can i put you down for a monthly shipment?
Nobody:
You with sectarian ragebait:
I wish anarchy would work.
The thing where a warlord tells you what to do? No, death to anarchy, instead let’s have a society where hierarchies are abolished and org charts are all rhizomatic and voluntary, with vigilant critiques of power differential with an eye to equalizing them as much as possible?
Sorry, what do you think anarchy is? Because what you’re describing, no hierarchal society, voluntary… Uhh, THAT’S the definition of anarchy. Why do so many people think anarchism is just synonymous with chaos? That’s just called chaos.
Homie is literally posting from an anarchist instance. This is satire lol.
My autism strikes again
Anarchy is a society completely free from government, coercive authority, or imposed hierarchies. While it is popularly misunderstood to mean chaos or lawlessness, it actually advocates for a system based on voluntary cooperation, self-organization, and mutual aid among individual
That’s how Bitcoin-libertarians describe themselves, too.
What?!? Are you ok comrade?
warlordism isn’t anarchy.
/woosh
I needed to test some aerodynamics stuff.
Sounds good, count me in!
Instance checks out
good news
At least if anarchy were able to work there would be no “leaders” at all
Yes!
Anarchy is a society completely free from government, coercive authority, or imposed hierarchies. While it is popularly misunderstood to mean chaos or lawlessness, it actually advocates for a system based on voluntary cooperation, self-organization, and mutual aid among individual
Bad news: opiates and fentanyl
This is usually my clench-point with anarchy. Yeaaaah, but… man, should we really have heroin in the 7/11 snack isle?
Libertarians: YEP!
wait, man, fuck. I get education and healthcare… kinda fixes this, but… does it, tho?
how does 711 operate in a stateless classless society to begin with?
Armed militias and unchecked gangs of armed thugs hired for enforcement and security.
Then again, we’re both thinking way too far ahead. Who’s producing medicine and opiates in an anarchist society?
Anarchy is a society completely free from government, coercive authority, or imposed hierarchies. While it is popularly misunderstood to mean chaos or lawlessness, it actually advocates for a system based on voluntary cooperation, self-organization, and mutual aid among individual
in a classless society, how can anyone employ anyone else? I think you’re lost, and you should wander back to a liberal conclave
In a classless society, how is anyone cared for if no one has the intrinsic motivation to do so? Because it’s the nice thing to do? Lmao.
The main issue with anarchism is that absolute freedom for you is a double-edged battle-axe. It assumes all people are good and trustworthy without any guardrails if they aren’t.
Anarchy is a society completely free from government, coercive authority, or imposed hierarchies. While it is popularly misunderstood to mean chaos or lawlessness, it actually advocates for a system based on voluntary cooperation, self-organization, and mutual aid among individual
Don’t forget moneyless.
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The person who wrote the comment must be lobotized.
That’s a troll
Seems to me they already have been
turns out everything people hate about communism is actually just stuff capitalism does.
Say it louder for the people in the back
But we have to be moderately responsible for the outcomes instead of just throwing our hands in the air and giving up!
oh yeah, definitely! i agitate toward socialist (and anarcho-syndicalist) policy at every chance i get! On top of that, I’m also continuously attempting to plant subliminal ideations toward it among people with whom i interact on a daily basis putting it in terms my propaganda-poisoned colleagues’ minds might actually grasp–
'if only we could decide this democratically, huh?`
‘after all, we’re the ones who actually have to do the work and see how things transpire here on the front lines of the whole operation…’
‘nobody upstairs knows how things work around here better than us.’
‘btw don’t we have some kind of right to peaceably assemble and petition for redress of grievances, ACTUALLY…?’
‘idk i just like democracy bro ;3’
‘kinda sucks how our tax dollars are being spent to prop up a genocidal regime so they can give their citizens free healthcare while we’re stuck with nothing, doesn’t it…’
‘hey if you want cheaper eggs, i know a place near here…! it’s a co-op market owned and operated by the local farmers and a dozen fresh eggs is like … sometimes HALF of what the big chain stores charge!’
“ohhh i’m so sorry to hear your cable company treats you that way…! it’s awful! y’know, it seems like every time people ask a corporation to handle infrastructure it just makes more waste, fraud and abuse… but as for me, the fiber optic line to my house is fast and stable and cheap, and it’s owned by all us residents in my town. Municipally owned! I would love for you to have that too. wouldn’t you? why not ask your neighbors how they feel about it?”
all of these examples are exaggerated and hyperbolic for illustrative purposes. i usually have to be a lot more subtle in order to avoid tipping them into a performative faux-patriotic ‘four legs good two legs bad’ thought terminating cliche fugue state.
It is what American boomers think “communism” is.
It’s also not too far separated from the Soviet Union, which represents “communism” in many peoples minds despite its fairly rapid departure from Marxist ideals.
Ah yes, the Soviet union where rent capped out at 10% of your salary, and that’s just in places without any labor incentives. If you were in a new industrial town your rent was free since it was you doing a favor to the people in moving to a remote area and having to live in a new city. That’s totally the same thing as American capitalism and totally opposed to Marxist ideals…
10%! Where can I sign up?
1930s-1980s USSR. (Gorbachev’s reforms really fucked with some areas before the collapse but the edge of the union was unharmed until the 1991 collapse wherein many former states of the USSR experienced homelessness as a problem for the first time in 70 years.)
Also some parts of China have rules of 0-25% of your salary depending on location, whether or not you were a rural citizen before moving to a rented home, and why you moved. (not that normal rent is far off from that thanks to the fact only 8% of the Chinese population doesn’t own a home.)
For fun, when I was in school, I’d ask people what they thought of this and that all the time and I was very much impressed that “what is ____” are questions that don’t have answers. Our education is fucked.
Generally, to boomers capitalism and communism is absolutely summed up with that drunk in the grocery store story.
Consumer choice is typically the vibes.
Whatever you criticisms of the USSR, they weren’t charging folks 25% or even 11% of their income in rent. I
“The elite telling the working class to stand in line and dictating what to pay for a living expense. That is not capitalism”
Man, this is on the same level as “nazism is leftist ideology because national SOCIALISM!!!”
There’s nothing “elite” about the Epstein class
That has to be a troll account.
Not at all. Here in South Africa, the ruling ANC has spent the last thirty years demonstrating what perfect neoliberal capitalists they are… yet you’ll still find plenty of local neo-nazis blubbering about the (supposedly) “socialist” ANC.
“Everything I don’t like is socialist”
Sounds like the next thirty should be fairly predictable.
I wish I could be that optimistic - this place is a reactionary time-bomb waiting to go off.
I have to agree.
Poe’s law is a bitch as always, but between the display name, the flags and the message itself (particular words as well as the fact that the statement is bordering on incoherent), I’m fairly certain this position is not sincerely held by the poster.
Now, whether it’s a leftist satirizing unhinged right-wingers or a troll account posing as leftist to portray them as deranged - your guess is as good as mine (though I’m leaning toward the former).
Lol “Communism”.
I mean, it is moving past capitalism and into something else, but that thing is feudalism.
It’s wild to me that we just casually call them land lords… I’m literally just a serf paying rent to my lord. “Tenant” is just putting lipstick on it.
You don’t understand! Communism is when bad things. And in capitalism nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen.
Happened to me. Lived in a building for multiple leases for $1100 -1300 a month over the course of seven years. Next renewal jumped to over $1800 per month. When I asked why, they said, "Because it’s what people are willing to pay. "
At least they’re honest.
Communism is when capitalism does something I don’t like
I have a MAGA family member who says things like that all the time. Usually he starts by saying “the socialist aristocracy did [insert complaint about capitalism]…”
This is why the USSR and PRC did cultural revolutions and re-education camps.
Communism is when bad decision of politician affects entire nation.
Capitalism is when bad decision of a rich person affects entire nation.
Difference is that one of those people is elected in democratic system.
Sometimes forcefully elected
There are people who would be elected endlessly thanks to their sheer competence. My town had one such mayor, but opposing party passed country-wide limit to amount of times one can be re-elected.
And I bet americans would love to still have Teddy Roosevelt as their president, especially now, though that might require a bit more than forceful election, a bit of necromancy perhaps.
And capitalism when “voluntary exchange” in commodities
No, it’s a dictatorship. Dictatorship of capital. Soviet union was also a dictatorship, which is why they also had elites that dictated how much of what you can have. It wasn’t because of the communism that they had elites, it was because it was a dictatorship.
Of course the funny thing about capital is that it tends to accumulate, so you get a dictatorship pretty naturally.
