1. I called a corpse a corpse (post contains multiple pictures of chests of multiple animals)
  2. Get called loud, obnoxious and ridiculous
  3. User types 380+ words on why my view is ridiculous (see linked post for more of their comments, my only two comments are in the image)
  4. I replied in an annoyed tone but did not use insults
  5. I am banned for “rule 1, be kind”

Post (TW: animal corpses): https://lemmy.world/post/45494863/23173926

Note: “the rules of this site” in my comment refer to rule 6 of lemmy.world which states:

No visual content depicting executions, murder, suicide, dismemberment, visible innards, excessive gore, or charred bodies. No content depicting, promoting or enabling animal abuse.

    • turdas@suppo.fi
      0·
      24 days ago

      That page is factually untrue and grossly uninformed of the fascinating things plants are capable of. Honestly expected better of vegans.

      Most plants evidently feel pain given that they have a stress response to being damaged. Many of them, like the famous venus flytrap, can feel much more than that. Many plants are capable of sensing their surroundings and responding to stimulus – rice can sense the sound of rain and pea plants can see their surroundings to grow towards a nearby support (and yes, they are actually sensing photons, not just blindly reaching). Plants also communicate with one another; they can for example release defensive embittering or toxic chemicals as a response to nearby plants being predated on. They are even capable of learning.

      Plants are capable of so much more active behaviour than we previously realized. On many of the metrics used by contemporary animal rights activists to define sentience, such as whether an animal is capable of sensing pain or learning, plants also qualify as sentient. The most complex plants are vastly more complex organisms than the simplest animals. Just because they’re alien to us and exist on a different timescale does not mean they aren’t sentient.

      • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
        1·
        23 days ago

        All of those are reactive. Lets say you cut yourself with a knife. That your blood clots and the wound heals is a reactive response. You don’t choose it, it just happens. That you then probably choose a less risky approach the next time you cut is you learning. I don’t have the time to watch the video unfortunately, but I read this article (do not plug that link into sci-hub.ee that would be pirating) which delves into the topic of plant’s having sensory membranes, conditional experiments etc.

        Regardless, even if we assume that

        a. Plants have consciousness
        b. Killing consciousness is immoral/unethical/bad or whatever

        then being vegan is still the more moral option since the amount of plants that need to be “murdered” to feed an animal until it’s ready for slaughter is orders of magnitude higher than the nutritional value we get out of the animal when we murder it.

        I also think the notion that harvesting peas is the same as ramming a bolt through a pigs head is not really something people actually believe, but rather antivegan cope. But that’s subjective of course.