Considering, again, I live in a deep red state my vote for anyone outside conservatives matters about the same. So I might as well stick with who I actually want representing me and not just representing who I slightly less prefer murdering.
You know, in 2024 there was some talk about whether to dispute the results of the election. But people saw that you’d chosen to let Trump win the popular vote, so they figured you wanted Trump to win, and they didn’t bother to demand a recount.
Even if everyone who voted third party voted for Harris, she still wouldn’t have won the popular vote, and that’s assuming all of them would have voted Harris and not Trump if forced like beyond at gunpoint (somehow like they can’t even pick to just be shot) which is extremely unlikely.
Who said I abstained? I literally said I voted third party and was discussing third party voters. Why are you now needing to include people who don’t vote at all? I voted third party in 2020 also so it’s not like the Dems lost my vote between those years.
Voting defensively is how we got here. Too many view voting as all they can do and any talk about doing more is viewed as too radical and annoying. If someone votes third party, but works to organize then I’d say they’re doing more than the vast amount of Americans.
People who voted for Biden in 2020 didn’t show up to vote in 2024. People not showing up to vote is how we got here. People not showing up to vote for Clinton in 2016 is how we got the SCOTUS far-right supermajority that can veto anything it wants, including the 14th, 15th and 19th Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.
And yes, if you’re organizing for the next noncooperation effort or the next general strike or coordinating obstruction of ICE abductions or working for your local mutual aid org, then yes, you’re doing something more, possibly more important than voting.
But it’s going to be a while before those organized efforts have enough power to make demands, and by then we’re likely to be in civil war. We’re already seeing state violence and concentration camps.
This is why I encourage everyone I help and work with to get armed and train. Community building means nothing if we’re not willing to violently defend that community. When I help organize protests, I encourage people to bring firearms cause police are bitchmade and are a lot less likely to pick a fight with someone that can visibly defend themselves. They always go for people that look weak and especially unarmed.
If everyone who voted for Biden had voted for Harris, she would have won the popular vote.
And if Biden had kept his campaign promises instead of just supporting genocide like you and every other centrist wanted, his VP might have had a record worth running on.
Considering, again, I live in a deep red state my vote for anyone outside conservatives matters about the same. So I might as well stick with who I actually want representing me and not just representing who I slightly less prefer murdering.
You know, in 2024 there was some talk about whether to dispute the results of the election. But people saw that you’d chosen to let Trump win the popular vote, so they figured you wanted Trump to win, and they didn’t bother to demand a recount.
Even if everyone who voted third party voted for Harris, she still wouldn’t have won the popular vote, and that’s assuming all of them would have voted Harris and not Trump if forced like beyond at gunpoint (somehow like they can’t even pick to just be shot) which is extremely unlikely.
If everyone who voted for Biden had voted for Harris, she would have won the popular vote. In 2024, there were more abstainers like you.
Who said I abstained? I literally said I voted third party and was discussing third party voters. Why are you now needing to include people who don’t vote at all? I voted third party in 2020 also so it’s not like the Dems lost my vote between those years.
In FPTP, voting for a third party – even when it’s some major figure like Ross Perot or Bull Moose Teddy Roosevelt – is doing the same as abstaining.
By voting defensively we can control the damage. But we’re obligated to do more than just vote.
Voting defensively is how we got here. Too many view voting as all they can do and any talk about doing more is viewed as too radical and annoying. If someone votes third party, but works to organize then I’d say they’re doing more than the vast amount of Americans.
People who voted for Biden in 2020 didn’t show up to vote in 2024. People not showing up to vote is how we got here. People not showing up to vote for Clinton in 2016 is how we got the SCOTUS far-right supermajority that can veto anything it wants, including the 14th, 15th and 19th Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.
And yes, if you’re organizing for the next noncooperation effort or the next general strike or coordinating obstruction of ICE abductions or working for your local mutual aid org, then yes, you’re doing something more, possibly more important than voting.
But it’s going to be a while before those organized efforts have enough power to make demands, and by then we’re likely to be in civil war. We’re already seeing state violence and concentration camps.
This is why I encourage everyone I help and work with to get armed and train. Community building means nothing if we’re not willing to violently defend that community. When I help organize protests, I encourage people to bring firearms cause police are bitchmade and are a lot less likely to pick a fight with someone that can visibly defend themselves. They always go for people that look weak and especially unarmed.
And if Biden had kept his campaign promises instead of just supporting genocide like you and every other centrist wanted, his VP might have had a record worth running on.