I really don’t like these jokes because I think they make light of how bad the Nazis were. Obviously fascism in the US is very very bad right now. But by 1939, antisemitic policies and action in Germany had become so bad that most Jews who were able to had already fled the country. The KZs for example already held around 60.000 people, and the Nazis murdered hundreds of Jews during the November pogroms of 1938.
I am fine with jokes linking the US right now to Germany in like 1935 or something.
I’m not arguing your point. But I am curious what 3rd party future historians will find the actual numbers of rounded up “illegals” put in camps and the actual death tolls to be for 2026.
I keep hearing that we don’t currently know. Maybe we’ll never know, unless someone is keeping a meticulous record in their private diary.
The official target is 3k arrests of illegals per day in a country of over 300 million people.
I mean people are fleeing the country and ICE is literally murdering innocent people and getting away with it. People are dying in detention centers and we don’t even know the exact number because ICE no longer reports deaths. ICE has also stopped reporting on detention and deportation data as well so we don’t even know how fucked it all is.
Considering those points I think 1939 comparisons are still very apt. I don’t think it’s lessening what happened in 1939, I think it’s emphasizing how fucked the US is. It’s just not that obvious because it’s happening right now and you don’t know the full extent of everything ICE is doing. You might even be downplaying the current situation by thinking it’s not as bad as something that is historically picked apart and fully documented.
I really don’t like these jokes because I think they make light of how bad the Nazis were. Obviously fascism in the US is very very bad right now. But by 1939, antisemitic policies and action in Germany had become so bad that most Jews who were able to had already fled the country. The KZs for example already held around 60.000 people, and the Nazis murdered hundreds of Jews during the November pogroms of 1938.
I am fine with jokes linking the US right now to Germany in like 1935 or something.
I’m not arguing your point. But I am curious what 3rd party future historians will find the actual numbers of rounded up “illegals” put in camps and the actual death tolls to be for 2026.
I keep hearing that we don’t currently know. Maybe we’ll never know, unless someone is keeping a meticulous record in their private diary.
The official target is 3k arrests of illegals per day in a country of over 300 million people.
Source from horse’s mouth March 2025:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250529211103/https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-administration-aims-3000-arrests-illegal-immigrants-each-day
I mean people are fleeing the country and ICE is literally murdering innocent people and getting away with it. People are dying in detention centers and we don’t even know the exact number because ICE no longer reports deaths. ICE has also stopped reporting on detention and deportation data as well so we don’t even know how fucked it all is.
Considering those points I think 1939 comparisons are still very apt. I don’t think it’s lessening what happened in 1939, I think it’s emphasizing how fucked the US is. It’s just not that obvious because it’s happening right now and you don’t know the full extent of everything ICE is doing. You might even be downplaying the current situation by thinking it’s not as bad as something that is historically picked apart and fully documented.
I dunno, but I already know of queer people who have fled the US.
I know a lot of queer people who want to flee the US, but can’t afford it