• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    13 days ago

    Neat idea… but I don’t think federal law is gonna stop the oligarchs under this administration.

  • NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
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    12 days ago

    RIP to the Endangered Species Act

    No chance the US government will forego money for their broligarchs because of environmental laws.

    But if you really want to overwhelm someone’s property with an unkillable native plant, I’d have to put Virginia creeper forward as a candidate.

    • potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.world
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      12 days ago

      Get a few people. On one corner: bamboo. On another, kudzu. On a third, blackberries and mint. On a fourth, your creepers. Let the games begin.

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          12 days ago

          Eh, ecosystems adapt. Most “invasive” species made their way to new lands on their own. The problem is when humans consciously introduce a new species with a purpose, knowing that it dominates against something the idiot human doesn’t like.

          There are only really a few big rules to keep things going. Don’t get rid of the sole predator for a populous prey animal. Don’t introduce prey animals to an environment that reproduce faster than they can be eaten. Don’t plant clones, diversify genetics within a species(looking at you, orchards and tree farms).

      • Apathy Tree@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        12 days ago

        Should add sunchokes/Jerusalem artichoke in there somewhere, as they are food. I don’t think kudzu is? Lets replace that one.

        Sunchokes spread like crazy as long as they have full sun, and are super difficult to eradicate, but are thwarted by being planted in sunny clearings in densely wooded areas. They can’t spread into the shade.

        Make the land difficult for development, but useful for the community!

  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    12 days ago

    Except it’s only native to the central valley in California so if you’re anywhere else this is not going to have any effect.

    I guess this person just didn’t look up its range or something? The species pictured there isn’t even native to CA.

    Most endangered species have restricted ranges, which is part of what makes them endangered. So you’ll have to do the work to find out what might be present in your local area.

    That said I did just hear they’re trying to build one in Roseville, CA which IS in the range of this species so guerrilla gardeners, if you happen to be in Roseville, go nuts.

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      7 days ago

      Besides which, of you could just propagate and pla t this stuff wherever, it wouldnt be rare and protected.

    • Skuldug@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      So the proper name for the blue elderberry is Sambucus cerulea? Asking for a friend, who wants to be sure they get the right type of seeds.

    • ddplf@szmer.info
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      12 days ago

      Agreed, we have to be super careful or otherwise we may end up generating some huge exposure for these platforms!

  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    The law means nothing when lobbies of big corps can change it to their like, paying politicans as their spokespersons.

  • M137@lemmy.today
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    12 days ago

    Top tweet (or whatever it is, IDFK): Good global idea.

    Second tweet: “OnLy ThE uS eXiStS”

    It would have been so easy to word it different to make even a hint at being aware of the rest of the world, but we know that would never have happened. Because 'Murica brained.

  • Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    if today’s strategies are anything to go by : nothing is illegal if youre in charge

  • Formfiller@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    It’s pretty clear laws aren’t real anymore. Nothing will improve until these demons live in constant fear for their lives

  • WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social
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    12 days ago

    I was once working on a building site of some kind and was told that was known to have some kind of native endangered lizard, we were told “if you think you see one, you didn’t”.

  • rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works
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    12 days ago

    Oops a completely accidental accident happened where a van full of pesticide accidentally crashed head on into the tree and exploded it. Accidentally. Oh well, I guess the build is back on at least.

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    12 days ago

    And you think these assholes won’t just raze that stuff without a care in the world? Because they will. After that they’ll be sued which will end with a small slap on the hand, combined with “oh you!” and that’s it

    It’ll relatively cost you more to buy that tree and plant it, than it’ll cost them to just ignore all that

    • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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      12 days ago

      Except no - starting elderberry shrubs is relatively easy. Not like scattering the berries on the ground, but sticking cuttings a couple inches into damp or wet ground in late fall works very well, with very good odds that they’ll be big enough to bear fruit in a year. It’s also very cheap if you have access to an existing tree.

      Apparently you missed this in the research I’m sure you did before commenting on the cost, and strangely the people upvoting you seem to be making the same mistake. Probably AI’s fault. (ooooh, he’s defending AI - nope, just criticizing misinformation)

      • TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id
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        12 days ago

        Nobody’s missing how easy these are to plant.

        The fucks planting data centres don’t give a fuck though. The guy in the white house does not give a fuck. They’ll bulldoze you and these plants for a nickel.

        • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          Well that assumes they get away with it, and the irrefutable doomsday gospel seems to be that corps will bulldoze the world no matter what, even if it’s illegal, therefore the endangered species tactic flat out won’t work, because nothing will work, because they’re invincible. But if that’s the case I don’t know why we’re even starting these conversations.

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        12 days ago

        They are definitely going to either remove the Endangered Species Act entirely or just slowly keep dropping species from the list as and when it becomes convenient honestly

        • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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          12 days ago

          They’re literally shooting people in the head in the street. If someone chained themselves to a tree to stop construction they’d just saw the person in half. Hasn’t been a single consequence yet

    • hansolo@lemmy.today
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      12 days ago

      No shit. This post is instructions on how to get an Executive Order named after you.