After seeing a megathread praising Mao Zedong, an actual mass killer, and a post about a guy saying “99% of westerners are 100000000000% sure they know what happened in ‘Tiny Man Square’ […] the reasons for this are complex and involve propaganda […],” I am genuinely curious what leads people to this belief system. Even if propaganda is involved when it comes to Tiananmen Square, it doesn’t change the atrocities that were/are committed everywhere else in China.

I am all for letting people believe what they want but I am lost on why one would deliberately praise any authoritarian system this hard.

Can someone please help me understand why this is such a large and prominent community? How have these ideals garnered such a following outside of China?

EDIT: Thank you to everyone who has responded! This thread has been very insightful :)

  • DaMummy [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    5 months ago

    This isn’t the whole story, just throwing my ¢2 in the conversation. There was a recent memorial in Canada about deaths attributed to communism. They had to remove the names off that monument as it was pretty much all fascist. So you’re prettty much stating that you’re pro fascist if you’re against communism. And yes, it’s the communists who not only defeated the German fascists, but also the Italian ones as well.

    • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      5 months ago

      And yes, it’s the communists who not only defeated the German fascists, but also the Italian ones as well.

      And Japanese fascists. which is who was “mass murdered” by the Chinese after being colonized and brutally ruled by the Japanese for 14 years. The Chinese lost over 22 million people fighting fascism

    • aberrate_junior_beatnik (he/him)@midwest.socialEnglish
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      5 months ago

      So you’re pretty much stating that you’re pro fascist if you’re against communism

      Even if it were true that communists only killed fascists, this would not follow

      And yes, it’s the communists who … defeated the German fascists

      They deserve credit for this, but they also deserve blame for their earlier cooperation with fascist Germany

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        5 months ago

        They deserve credit for this, but they also deserve blame for their earlier cooperation with fascist Germany

        The Soviet Union had a non-aggression pact with fascist Germany because it was already at war with fascist Japan. It then had a non-aggression pact with fascist Japan while it was at war with fascist Germany. The entire pact was just the Soviet Union not wanting to fight in two different fronts against fascists.

        The Soviet Union was already waging war against fascists in 1935. Can’t say the same for the rest of the Allies outside of the Republic of China.

      • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        5 months ago

        They didn’t cooperate with fascist Germany, they signed a non aggression pact after they tried to rally the rest of Europe against fascist Germany and the Europeans said no and then signed their own agreements with Germany. The soviets being the last to try and avoid war with the fascists through a non aggression pact after the Europeans decided to cozy up to Germany means the soviets were the least culpable in the situation. Considering their entire economy was fucked after world war 1 and the Germans were already saying Slavic people were subhumans controlled by Jewish Bolsheviks before the non aggression pact was signed, there is literally no reason to assume bad faith on the Soviets part for trying to stave off more war for a few years to prepare for the inevitable.