Not looking to debate or stir up anything. But, I will say despite anyone’s thoughts the anti-meta fedi pact at least allowed people to have some information on where instances and people stood on federation with Threads. Some decisions were able to be made based on that information. I think if it doesn’t exist there should be one also regarding AI, which is a polarizing topic especially on fedi. I believe similar to the Threads issue it would allow people to make somewhat informed decisions one way or the other. Are there current lists, sites dedicated to this? If not what are you guys thoughts?
The main problem is that there’s no such things as “AI”. It doesn’t exist.
If you’re talking about “generated media”, then I think it’s still a vague and unenforceable category. For example, when does using an image filter turn into “generated media”? But at least it would be more accurate and specific.
what’s the difference between pyrite and gold? there’s a gold rush. everyone is going crazy over gold. gold is made of metal, shiny, has a yellow tint, very heavy, very expensive, and people are going insane over the prospect of getting some. need i say more?
“generative ai”. it’s a strikingly precise category that everyone knows the exact meaning of. a large neural network made by training on a large dataset, used for generation. just because adding a grain does not change if something is a heap, does not mean that you can’t remove the giant mounds people are making.
PieFed has rather strong thoughts on the subject: https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/1523426/labelling-or-hiding-ai-generated-content.
In short, just as NSFW/NSFL posts or bot accounts are totally fine so long as labeled, so too AI posts are fine… unless unlabeled as such. And if users refuse to label them, then community mods have tools that help them detect and label them for the users.
PieFed’s options for AI content are:
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Hide completely
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Label as AI
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Make post semi-transparent
This method democratically puts powerful tools into the hands of end-users to individually choose what approach works best for them, rather than e.g. make an authoritive declaration such as defederation of instances that often allow AI content.
Labeling AI generated content isn’t strong thoughts, it should be baseline for all social media
What makes the thoughts strong is that their implementation already exists.
Likewise, PieFed saw a number of opportunities to improve things, and rather than simply wishing that something were so, people expended effort to actually code them up so as to make them REAL, i.e. no longer mere thoughts but actions.
e.g. Lemmy offers a marking/tagging for NSFW, which PieFed expanded so that NSFL (gore) is an entirely separate category. Theoretically I could completely hide all NSFL while blurring the thumbnail of NSFW posts, or vice versa, or make both sets semi-transparent, or whatever. The Lemmy software might offer thoughts and prayers along those lines - e.g. theoretically you could dedicate different communities for each type, or even different entire instances (one for NSFW and a separate instance for NSFL?), or perhaps add standardized keywords (not that Lemmy allows keyword filtering innately, as PieFed does, but in case some 3rd party apps wanted to do so?) to distinguish between NSFW vs. NSFL - but multiple years ago now PieFed birthed that thought into a full-blown solution.
In the same manner, PieFed is far beyond the stage of merely beginning to have a couple thoughts along the lines of dealing with AI content: as that linked posts indicates, 5 months ago it already offered a full implementation of a solution.
Ah, I see the distinction. I usually see the phrase “having strong thoughts” or “strong opinions” to mean having a viewpoint that might be considered radical or controversial, which is where my confusion came from.
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