wow, how is a conservative republican trumper even allowed on lemmy?

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    i have a feeling you’re using the word “republicans” to refer to the party of john mccain. which died with him.

    what we have now is fascism. when i see someone simping for anyone running for office with R next to their name, it’s not what you’d call a “discussion.”

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      John McCain was a POW and he may have served honourably in the US military, but he wasn’t some paragon of virtue. Wasn’t he a big part of the Birther movement (the ones who tried to push the idea that Barack Obama was not a bona fide American citizen because his father was born in Kenya and some suggested he was as well)?

      If we’re going back some years, we could use the Republicans’ own words and call them the party of Lincoln, though every Republican who voted for Abraham Lincoln likely would have voted for Barack Obama, and more recently, against Donald Trump. The Republicans were the progressive party back then and the Democrats (under whom the Klan was founded) were the conservative party. Conservatives today like to remind people of that, but they don’t like it when we point out that the two parties swapped ideals and platforms long before any of us were born.

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        military, but he wasn’t some paragon of virtue. Wasn’t he a big part of the Birther movement

        No, he was outspoken against that movement when it started gaining traction during their election cycle.

        Not really a fan of McCain, but at least he had values I guess.

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          to quote The Muslims “John McCain’s Ghost Sneaks into the White House and Teabags the President”:

          Damn dude that’s cool
          But we still hate you too

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        you’re arguing against something i never said, nor can it reasonably be said that i implied it anywhere. but ok

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        Wasn’t he a big part of the Birther movement

        no and he actively shut up the people trying to make that an issue on the campaign trail. the loudest voice among the birth certificate crowd was donald trump lmao