I disagree, I think smaller communities are more sustainable and defederation should occur more, not less. I like discussing common interests and digging deeper into a topic both users have a shared basic understanding of. For example, allowing and even promoting people to come into a community like WomensStuff and argue against some pretty basic feminist ideas is really not what that community is made for. There are so many more examples of this, but without fail the end result is discouragement of minority opinions and people who are truly passionate about their chosen communities.
Having safe spaces (which is absolutely fine and up to the mods of the community) doesn’t mean that other people that contradict the idea of said safe spaces shouldn’t use the Fediverse in general.
They could host their own Nazi instance of Lemmy and do whatever they want rather than using X or truth social or whatever. I obviously still don’t like these people and their ideas, but I prefer them discussing it without being additionally manipulated by intransparent algorithms and corporations. Of course, other instances can (and probably will in many cases) decide to defederate the Nazi server or block specific users or communities as it’s done today.
doesn’t mean that these people shouldn’t use the Fediverse in general.
I’m not arguing that at all; defederation does not affect somebody’s ability to host an instance. Everything I said can be equally applied to all communities.
Could you please elaborate what you meant with your disagreement then? Seems to me that we agree here. I did not mean to say that everyone should be welcomed in every community and share whatever opinion/content they want. I was just talking about Platforms as in X, Truth Social or in case of the Fediverse Mastodon, Lemmy, Loops etc.
Because nothing I said was against the idea of decentralization, or promoting people staying on twitter. Defederating is a healthy part of decentralization, and it should be encouraged more as the fediverse grows.
I still like the idea of forums and still use a bunch of them, but different forums being somewhat compatible to each other has quite some advantages from my perspective. For me it would be great concept of having independent websites that can exchange data via ActivityPub and people can either visit the website or consume the content from another instance and with their app of choice.
I disagree, I think smaller communities are more sustainable and defederation should occur more, not less. I like discussing common interests and digging deeper into a topic both users have a shared basic understanding of. For example, allowing and even promoting people to come into a community like WomensStuff and argue against some pretty basic feminist ideas is really not what that community is made for. There are so many more examples of this, but without fail the end result is discouragement of minority opinions and people who are truly passionate about their chosen communities.
Having safe spaces (which is absolutely fine and up to the mods of the community) doesn’t mean that other people that contradict the idea of said safe spaces shouldn’t use the Fediverse in general.
They could host their own Nazi instance of Lemmy and do whatever they want rather than using X or truth social or whatever. I obviously still don’t like these people and their ideas, but I prefer them discussing it without being additionally manipulated by intransparent algorithms and corporations. Of course, other instances can (and probably will in many cases) decide to defederate the Nazi server or block specific users or communities as it’s done today.
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I’m not arguing that at all; defederation does not affect somebody’s ability to host an instance. Everything I said can be equally applied to all communities.
Could you please elaborate what you meant with your disagreement then? Seems to me that we agree here. I did not mean to say that everyone should be welcomed in every community and share whatever opinion/content they want. I was just talking about Platforms as in X, Truth Social or in case of the Fediverse Mastodon, Lemmy, Loops etc.
Because nothing I said was against the idea of decentralization, or promoting people staying on twitter. Defederating is a healthy part of decentralization, and it should be encouraged more as the fediverse grows.
In this case, why bother with the Fediverse in the first place and why should we not go back to the forums of yesteryear?
I still like the idea of forums and still use a bunch of them, but different forums being somewhat compatible to each other has quite some advantages from my perspective. For me it would be great concept of having independent websites that can exchange data via ActivityPub and people can either visit the website or consume the content from another instance and with their app of choice.
There are many instances worth federating with.