Your numbers are mostly right but your conclusion doesn’t follow.

The 2% decline is due to a subsidy cliff. Q3 2025 was an all-time record 10.5% EV share, Q4 fell to 5.7% because the federal credit died September 30. Full year was still 7.8% and the second-best on record.

“823,000 F150s” is the F-Series, Super Duty and fleet included, not just one model. Through June 2026 it’s down ~13% YoY. By your own logic the F-Series is collapsing. Is it? (Ford Lightening is a great truck btw).

Japan doesn’t just sell cars in the US. It sells cars around the world. Chinese automakers outsold Japanese automakers globally in 2025, roughly 27M to 25M, the first time Japan lost the top spot since 2000. Japanese brands’ share in China fell from ~23% to under 10%. Honda China down 24% in 2025 alone. Nissan down ~60% from its 2018 peak, four straight loss quarters, 20,000 jobs cut. Toyota posted its first North American operating loss since 2008.

You said it yourself: they actually have to sell cars to stay afloat. They’re not staying afloat. Not because of internet comments, because BYD wrecked them in the largest auto market on the planet while they were explaining why EVs wouldn’t work.

Tesla killed S and X because the 3 and Y ate them and Musk says he wants a factory for moronic robots. Tesla still took 46% of a 1.3M-unit US EV market. That’s a product decision, not a demand verdict.

And yes, most US EV startups went broke. About 1,900 American car companies existed before 1930. Three survived. That was never an argument against EVs, its an argument against starting a car company.

Lastly, why are you even here? I don’t know why you’d come to an EV community on lemmy, a place full of enthusiastic EV nerds, just to attempt talking trash about EVs. That’s not going to go well for you. Now go have fun wasting your cash on gasoline and oil changes.

I’m on year six with no complaints bud.

They’re objectively better vehicles bud

This makes so much sense. They have you there for 20 minutes, give or take a few, might as well get a sandwich or something. A restaurant like Sonic could do this the best. Pull in, start charging, and then order food all from the same kiosk.

Unsurprising and disgusting. What’s Trump even getting out of that?

basically were just fear-mongering for any Chinese product.

China gets a kill switch on a major source of renewable energy.

Sounds like you’re fearmongering for a chinese product. Anyone within range could exploit the vulnerability.

When you put it that way it sounds reasonable

I really don’t think it’s that easy. Nobody’s going to fly a drone down the street broadcasting malware to these inverters. Still sounds like FUD to me. “Don’t buy the reasonably priced solar, someone will burn your house down.”

Is this actually a problem? Sounds like china-scary fud.