I’ll take it. Anything that fucks up their cohesion and buys time.

Holy shit! Good thing happens, hexbear’s shook!

any serious criticism they could have of Donald Trump were things they could also be accused of.

Obama famously started the program of imprisoning legal asylum seekers, but Libs simply did not care then and do not care now that Biden is doing it.

It’s wild that Yanukovich was the duly elected president, and as legitimate as you could get in Ukraine, and Libs just… don’t care, and consider the violent coup and the illegal subsequent government legitimate and “Democratic”.

This. The Iraq War provoked one of the largest anti-war movements in US history. The Media simply ignored it entirely. They never talked about it and never aired footage of it. The media blackout was so complete that I don’t think the average person even knows it happened. But it did.

This time there doesn’t seem to be any anti-war resistance, at all. It really feels like it’s literally just us.

Yeah. I was an adult when it started and it’s very fuzzy for me. I can’t imagine younger people remember a lot of the details and how incredibly jingoistic and vicious people got overnight.

Even we truly anti-American leftists still have the vestiges of this great brainwashing eating away at us, its catchphrases and carefully programmed trains of thought gnawing away at our minds.

Word. “You are not immune to propaganda” should be tattooed on the inside of everyone’s eyelids, it’s so important.

Is German media just not blasting anti-China and anti-Russia propaganda 24/7?

Probably. Americans have a huge cultural disadvantage because we’ve been indoctrinated our whole lives to believe that we’re immune to propaganda, that the news doesn’t do propaganda, and that even if the government is lying to us it doesn’t try to propagandize us.

Look at how the Libs reacted to Russiagate. If I recall correctly the initial allegation was that Russia spent something paltry like 200,000 dollars on targeted ads, and the Liberals lost their goddamn minds. They were utterly obsessed for years and years on end. It was all over the media, it dominated their analysis of the election. And even if it was true the way they thought it was it was a drop in the ocean. Hillary spent an unprecedented one billion dollars on her campaign. No reasonable person would believe that the tiny amount of ad buy Russia did would tip the scales.

They were also in complete denial about the nature of the American electorate. Many of them simply refused to believe that the GOP’s core voters really were exactly as mean, cruel, racist, and committed as they appeared. They couldn’t accept that their idealistic, unrealistic vision of America could elect someone like Trump, so they grasped on to any explanation but the truth. Bernie bros, ignorant rural voters, Russian interference. But the simple truth they failed to accept was that the petiti bourgeoisie wanted Trump, they voted for Trump, and Trump got enough votes in America’s stupid election system to win.

Americans taken as a whole have very little media literacy and are not skeptical about the media they consume. Whatever you put in front of them, if it confirms their biases, they just uncritically accept without a second thought.

I assume that at least some nations in Europe just don’t have as intense of a propaganda saturation as the US. I also suspect being outside the core of the Evil Empire gives people a little more perspective to see that America is full of shit.