

Nobody is comparing them to coal or gas for better alternatives already exist.


Nobody is comparing them to coal or gas for better alternatives already exist.


Then you where not the target for this meme, please move along and have a good day.


You have to get the people in somehow. And i was sick of ppl calling nuclear cheap solution to climate change when it clearly isnt, thence i choose the word profitable.


Ok i gave this the benefit of the doubt and watched the whole video.
Things there where not included in the calculation:
Cost of compensating for environmental destruction from uran mines (and health care costs for thost impacted by the radio active dust from them)
Political cost of importing fissile fuel from other nations (importing from russia/usa gives russia/usa leverage over you wich then can get expensive in other parts of the economy)
Cost at end of plant life cycle, aka building it back once the structure has aged beyond what maintenance can fix
Cost of storing and maintaining radio active waste for the next few million years
The video also only compares those selective picked numbers to fossil fuels and not things like solar or wind.
This video did not change my opinion, but thanks for suggesting it.


That said I think the part concerning waste from nuclear usines is a weak argument. It’s a relatively low volume, compared with the amount of electricity generated by those usines; and mining operations will be always a mess, no matter if you’re mining uranium (for nuclear), neodymium (for wind) or gallium and iridium (for solar).
Yes, but i would argue that when you mine neodymium or gallium once you then can recycle them for ever, while the same cant be said for uranium, in the long term that does make a big difference.


Nobody is defending fossil fuels here.


Economics is a human made concept, not a universal fact.
So are numbers and math.
To stay real here tho, i made this meme because i noticed the number of people in this sublemmy, who are thinking that nuclear power plants are a solution to climate change, is to damn high.
And i keep seeing them echoing tales that where seeded by the fissile fuel industry.
I get that from a physics nerds standpoint nuclear energy is “cool” but that dosent make it a good overall solution to the problems we facing.


A public service should be a net profit in standards of living of the people who make up the public. And i proclaim that nuclear power plants dont do that in the long term. They drain the public out of resources that could have been invested in better solutions that dont come with the downsides of radio active waste products.


Economics is science too.


Nobody is defending Fossil fuels here.


40-year lifetime
That dosent include the cost of maintaining the radioactive trash for the next few million years.


Tell me, how are the french nuclear plants dealt with the last heat wave?


here already were natural nuclear reactor on earth way before humanity and it didnt kill everything where they were.
Uhm, a river flowing thru low grade non enriched uranium deposit isnt a reactor in the way we build em today, like not even close.


True


thats what i gave your mom last night


Because it only makes sense if you also need to run nuclear Submarines with ICBMs on them.
Basically Nuclear power has always been a military project thats just “Dual use” to offset the cost by having tax payers foot the bill for civilians plants.
Doing that makes the whole supply chain cheaper for the Military usage…cuz mining it only for military usage only would be hella expensive and harder to justify towards the population.


Thats fusion tho


I am open to change my mind on this, but i never seen evidence for a single one that was profitable when you include development cost, maintenance, build back and disposal (and long term maintenance of disposal).
Yeah you can reprocess nuclear fuel, but latest information i have on that is that its nowhere close making sense cost wise and mostly theoretical, i may be wrong on that tho.
When i yeet a solar cell or electric motor into a furnace its possible to refine basically everything, sure here and there a motor in a hair dryer will hit the landfill, but for industrial Motors/Generators is very very low.