• 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    352·
    2 days ago

    They didn’t take their ball and go home though. They left their ball there with the complainers and went home without the ball.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      85·
      2 days ago

      “Their ball” in this instance would be the way they handled moderation, and they took their moderation with them.

      Would you think any different if they removed themselves and everyone else as moderators, leaving it purposely unmoderated? Because he didn’t even ask if the people he modded wanted or were up to the task. What if they weren’t and the community spirals without moderation. Seems like taking something away to me.

      • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
        10·
        2 days ago

        I’m not a mod of anything, but your comment kinda upsets me in how you think.

        Being a mod is unpaid slave work which can be gruelling. If a mod gets burnt out and has just had enough, they can leave whenever they want and “take their moderation with them.”

        Their time was not compensated for, they are doing it for the passion they have/had for their community. If that is now gone because of whatever accumulation of stress, then that’s 100% fine.

        Would you think any different if they removed themselves and everyone else as moderators, leaving it purposely unmoderated?

        That’s very obviously a completely different thing. They’re free to leave… obviously removing others forcefully is not good… but that isn’t happening here.

        Seems like taking something away to me.

        This just makes you sound like a child, no offence, this person on the internet doesn’t owe anyone anything. If they want to stop modding, they can at any time.

      • Universal Monk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        111·
        2 days ago

        Meh, they can remove themselves as mods too. Or just ignore it. It’s not like it’s some huge responsibility they are stuck with now. lol

        • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
          32·
          2 days ago

          The argument was that the mod in question didn’t take his ball and go home. I just pointed out that by removing himself from the moderating team, he removed an active moderator, which very much is taking your ball and going home, especially if the new mods that didn’t get asked if they wanted to be do just that, remove themselves and move on.

      • ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        913·
        2 days ago

        Nobody owes you their time to moderate your community. If people aren’t happy with how their work is appreciated, then it’s their choice to leave.

        And I think it makes a good point to give it to the complainers. They can leave too, and it’s up to them too. It’s as hard as hitting a button. Maybe they’ll keep their fucking mouths shut next time.

        • chortle_tortle@mander.xyz
          182·
          2 days ago

          Maybe they’ll keep their fucking mouths shut next time.

          Jesus Christ… I feel like you don’t socialize much if this you think is a normal response to the most absolute mild and gentle ways to say “hey, might be worth letting a bit more discussion flourish while the community is small.”

          • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
            82·
            2 days ago

            Yeah I know what subs I’m not interacting with any time soon now lmao.

            I guarantee you this person you’re responding to is a power tripping bastard when it comes to their own communities, based on their attitude in this thread alone.

            • ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              213·
              2 days ago

              You seem upset at being criticized for expecting people to do free work for you.

              Were you going to doxx me next?

                • chortle_tortle@mander.xyz
                  71·
                  2 days ago

                  I’ve actually come around. I think it might be that forced arbitrary conscription might be the only way to get mods that are not insane.

                  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
                    2·
                    2 days ago

                    Actually, I’ve seen MetaFilter be fairly successful at rolling out as a legal non-profit entity with elections and interviews to be admins/moderators. What is the draw? These people are all paid, they are not doing the work for free. It’s now literally their day job and pays them enough to support themselves doing that as their job.

                    I know a lot of people don’t actually want to explore that, but I think that would instantly alleviate the complaints of people being expected to do labor for free. I don’t actually think it should be free, but as it is, Lemmy instances are not well funded enough for that, especially with the ability to create endless communities. MetaFilter has different sections, but nobody can just arbitrarily make a new section that needs new mods. So part of it here is how Lemmy is designed, and it’s base design reflects the assumption that moderators work for free.

                    So anyway, put me in the basket of “we should pay admins and moderators (as well as vote for them), and this would solve so many problems.”

        • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
          111·
          2 days ago

          Sure nobody owes their time, but they signed up for it. The idea that you’ll never get anyone with even the tiniest complaint (and genuinely, it was an incredibly small complaint) and to just throw your hands and give up when you do is childish. The first person to bring it up even said they just thought the moderator was working too hard, not that they were doing anything wrong, and that they even understood and respect the philosophy behind it. They weren’t being rude, there’s almost no better way to present constructive criticism than how the OP brought it up to begin with. If that’s worth crashing out over, you’re not fit to be a fucking mod anyway, imho.

          Yet in here a few people have written off as complainers instead of active members of a community who are giving community feedback.

          I would get it if the users were being rude, but they clearly weren’t, the first person to bring it up especially was incredibly understanding and not rude at all. Losing it over constructive criticism is power tripping baby bitch shit.

          • curbstickle@anarchist.nexusEnglish
            6·
            2 days ago

            Biggest problem honestly is that I can’t deal with making a Lemmy.world account today, not home and not dealing with the link on the go. Maybe in the morning if they are sticking with leaving.