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einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 5 days ago

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    they also last decades and are cheap to run with extremely low carbon emissions

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      Any source for this significant claim?

      The German ministry for Safety of nuclear energy (BASE) published an official statement that nuclear energy is not only unsafe, but also way too expensive:

      https://www.base.bund.de/shareddocs/faktencheck/base/de/atomstrom-alternative-energiequellen-kosten.html

      There are studies by the Deutsches Insitut für Wirtschaftsforschung (DIW, German Institute of Economic Research) that show significant higher costs per kWh than other power sources:

      https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.867887.de/publikationen/wochenberichte/2023_10_1/ausbau_von_kernkraftwerken_entbehrt_technischer_und_oekonomischer_grundlagen.html

      https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.670481.de/publikationen/wochenberichte/2019_30_1/zu_teuer_und_gefaehrlich__atomkraft_ist_keine_option_fuer_eine_klimafreundliche_energieversorgung.html

      At my company, we work together with the Gesellschaft für Endlagerung (BGE). These guys are responsible to find safe long time storage for nuclear waste. Spoiler: as of now, there is no such thing as safe long time storage.

      The German energy provider Enbw claims costs per kWh to be as high as 0.49€ for nuclear energy, which is ridiculous high. And they did not even factor in the high costs of safe long time storage!

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        These guys are responsible to find safe long time storage for nuclear waste. Spoiler: as of now, there is no such thing as safe long time storage.

        What do they say about Onkalo ?

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          Nothing, because they have only space for 6500 t high-level nuclear waste which is already reserved for Finnish nuclear waste, whereas Germany has like 17.000 t.

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            But with regards to the “no such thing as safe long term storage” comment?

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              Now I get what you mean. I should have phrased this better. I meant “no such thing as safe long term storage [could be determined in Germany yet]”. Which means, as of today, they could not find a safe location in Germany to build such a storage facility like Finland did.

              Germany is densely populated and the ground/earth is mostly unsuited for long time storage.

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          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkIa99touXQ

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