It would take 13.24 years taxing the 429.44785276073619631 extra to the working people of the US to have enough money saved up for everyone in the country (current population of 350mil) for 25 years based on the 1,800$/MO income that would be dispensed.
I understand it’s just paper with cloth fiber that has no value unless we put that value to it. Yes, I understand money is a valueless idea but you take it away Humans are gonna wanna trade something whether it’s your skills or your philosophical babbling, they’re gonna want something in return. You take away one thing you replace it with another. So if someone asks you to cement their driveway you’re gonna want something in return, you might want food, their time back or now you get one night in their home.
Okay smart ass, would you do work all day for free? Free as in, absolutely nothing in return or would you at the very least want to be able to feed yourself so you’d work for food, right? Oh shit what if you worked and you want food but you need a new shirt but you need to collect a bunch of fruit to trade for that shirt and that shirt was needed to keep doing your work, now you’re collecting fruit but what if it spoils first so you have to find the best spot that won’t spoil except that territory is controlled by a person who wants 2 sticks for every hour they keep your food unspoiled, what then?
I just realized this says : Flippant Anarchism. A lighter take on social criticism with the aim of agitation … I had no idea this is what I was on. I just read about the fediverse and decided to join because I no bullshit got banned from Reddit for asking: Why don’t we castrate billionaires to prevent generational wealth? and they banned me because they thought I was calling for violence. My appeal got denied. So this is funny to me. I’m a social capitalist with libertarian socialist views. I don’t agree with society but I think the only way to change society or have any kind of effect on it is from dismantling it from within. I’m also straight up for the halting of production to destroy society and watch it collapse.
At the same time though I also know we would need a currency no matter what or trading for food or shelter; That’s why it’s like we can even go as far back as thinking how would a cave person think: they need skin of animal, you have skin of animal I give you food oog boog we trade.
I don’t disagree but if you’re raised in the US and live in it, it’s what you got. The collapse of East Germany (autocorrect wtf, we listen to the east Germany anthem when we feel like we need hope don’t tell me west) and the German mark was good enough to show when one satellite fails in a major way it shows the flaws of the whole. Socialism is using other people’s money to solve problems that never will be solved and every country that has attempted it in a heavy way has failed or ruined their economy.
Capitalism is at the very core, controlled greed that everyone can bite into and never have to give any of it away because you earned that. We even tell people who are disabled they earn that money to make them not feel bad and they don’t earn it, they receive it. Even then, even if you receive money, you’re still able if you did it right to hoard money.
But I guess if food wasn’t a commodity then I guess if I owned a farm and had cattle for meat that means it’s a fuck all and you can take my cattle because food isn’t a commody?
If there was no value to the things we have we wouldn’t have a controlled trade system to be able to have some kind of a civilized way of living without that controlled trade system Farmer Frank killing you with a pitchfork for stealing his cattle, is more a possibility than going to the grocery store and buying meat.
I’m just saying you can take away money and you will not have a free society where everyone is just in some utopia being accepting of one another there will still be murder and people will still want something in return. Whether it’s your time talking to someone or providing a service like building a house, someone is still going to want your pile of rocks for that.
If you want to hunt and gather shit move the hell to the Appalachians other than that pay for your goods and services.
It would take 13.24 years taxing the 429.44785276073619631 extra to the working people of the US to have enough money saved up for everyone in the country (current population of 350mil) for 25 years based on the 1,800$/MO income that would be dispensed.
So, no, you don’t at all understand that money isn’t real.
I understand it’s just paper with cloth fiber that has no value unless we put that value to it. Yes, I understand money is a valueless idea but you take it away Humans are gonna wanna trade something whether it’s your skills or your philosophical babbling, they’re gonna want something in return. You take away one thing you replace it with another. So if someone asks you to cement their driveway you’re gonna want something in return, you might want food, their time back or now you get one night in their home.
It’s always something.
Man, capitalism has really fucked you up.
Okay smart ass, would you do work all day for free? Free as in, absolutely nothing in return or would you at the very least want to be able to feed yourself so you’d work for food, right? Oh shit what if you worked and you want food but you need a new shirt but you need to collect a bunch of fruit to trade for that shirt and that shirt was needed to keep doing your work, now you’re collecting fruit but what if it spoils first so you have to find the best spot that won’t spoil except that territory is controlled by a person who wants 2 sticks for every hour they keep your food unspoiled, what then?
There’s always something.
Please refer to my previous comment.
I just realized this says : Flippant Anarchism. A lighter take on social criticism with the aim of agitation … I had no idea this is what I was on. I just read about the fediverse and decided to join because I no bullshit got banned from Reddit for asking: Why don’t we castrate billionaires to prevent generational wealth? and they banned me because they thought I was calling for violence. My appeal got denied. So this is funny to me. I’m a social capitalist with libertarian socialist views. I don’t agree with society but I think the only way to change society or have any kind of effect on it is from dismantling it from within. I’m also straight up for the halting of production to destroy society and watch it collapse.
At the same time though I also know we would need a currency no matter what or trading for food or shelter; That’s why it’s like we can even go as far back as thinking how would a cave person think: they need skin of animal, you have skin of animal I give you food oog boog we trade.
It’s always something.
Capitalism is fucking removeded.
I don’t disagree but if you’re raised in the US and live in it, it’s what you got. The collapse of East Germany (autocorrect wtf, we listen to the east Germany anthem when we feel like we need hope don’t tell me west) and the German mark was good enough to show when one satellite fails in a major way it shows the flaws of the whole. Socialism is using other people’s money to solve problems that never will be solved and every country that has attempted it in a heavy way has failed or ruined their economy.
Capitalism is at the very core, controlled greed that everyone can bite into and never have to give any of it away because you earned that. We even tell people who are disabled they earn that money to make them not feel bad and they don’t earn it, they receive it. Even then, even if you receive money, you’re still able if you did it right to hoard money.
But I guess if food wasn’t a commodity then I guess if I owned a farm and had cattle for meat that means it’s a fuck all and you can take my cattle because food isn’t a commody?
If there was no value to the things we have we wouldn’t have a controlled trade system to be able to have some kind of a civilized way of living without that controlled trade system Farmer Frank killing you with a pitchfork for stealing his cattle, is more a possibility than going to the grocery store and buying meat.
I’m just saying you can take away money and you will not have a free society where everyone is just in some utopia being accepting of one another there will still be murder and people will still want something in return. Whether it’s your time talking to someone or providing a service like building a house, someone is still going to want your pile of rocks for that.
If you want to hunt and gather shit move the hell to the Appalachians other than that pay for your goods and services.