cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/54923731
Some accounts are deleting their posts after a few downvotes. It’s devastating on communities like c/asklemmy.
Lemmy doesn’t track an account’s karma like reddit. So, all downvotes will be isolated to your post or comment and won’t affect your account—unless you wrote something truly horrible.
Remember lemmy is a community effort. Deleting a post also removes all comments on it. So you are not only robbing the effort others put in, you are actively removing knowledge from the fediverse. Others won’t be able to find it through search and lemmy will seem lonelier than it already is.
karma is heavily abused by botters, spammers, and used as an excuse by reddit/mods to filter out people they dont like.
That’s one of fediverse’s most underused selling points. Karma farming is impossible here.
Just don’t post any real shit post in the sublemmy shitpost. That will get you a ban. Only picture of fairies and unicorns are allowed for these poor sensitive souls. I though lemmy would be more educated than reddit but unfortunately there are a small group of loud little bitches everywhere ruining the world for everyone else.
People actually cared about Reddit karma?
What if we aren’t coming from Reddit? I had good karma way before the internet ever existed because I tried my best to treat the world around me with love and respect. Now that I’m older and knee-deep in the world’s tech I find I’ve become a bit irascible. Maybe that’s more a product of age than social engineering. I hope so.
Then you simply won’t feel the usual pressure to perform that people worried about karma feel before posting anything.
Maybe that’s why people on Lemmy are also sort of extra curmudgeonly. They can be without facing algorithmic consequences.
Deleting a post because it got downvotes? Who are these babies who can’t take people not liking them?
Sometimes down votes are a sign that you’re saying things people don’t want to hear or the right things but on a crazy instance, but sometimes down votes are a chance for self reflection where you have to ask yourself “Am I the asshole?” and in the latter case yeah I’m probably just going to delete it. No apologies though, I’m not looking to be a saint here.
Yeah like that time I commented on horshoe theory on a tankie sublemmy (honestly my fault. That’s like smoking next to the pump at a gas station) which really pissed off a lot of tankies lol.
You didn’t consider how Russia/China would feel before commenting on .ml? Absolutely scandalous.
For more context, my comment was making fun of how both fascists and tankies will line people up against a wall and shoot them for being the out group.
The vitriol I experienced lead me to believe that if it wouldn’t have explicitly proved my point for me, they would have threatened to line me up against a wall and shoot me for being the outgroup lmao!
It doesn’t even take that. Sometimes it just takes one opinion literally anywhere that one tankie sees that hurts their feelings, and they brigade away. It’s totally random. I’ve enjoyed them doing that on shitposts and memes on sub’s totally unrelated to .ml madness.
It also makes me think that there’s only actually like 10 or 20 tankies that each cycle through 30 accounts each, and one guy in Beijing that runs the “Propaganda: Other Platforms” desk coordinating of all. Or maybe that’s just a function of their groupthink. Hard to say.
I’m still new to Lemmy but yeah I’ve noticed that too. They show up anywhere they see stuff they don’t like.
What’s kind of fun is you can basically summon them by saying “Trotsky wouldn’t have been better than Stalin” three times in a mirror.
“Numbers, math, measures, and money were all independently invented my numerous civilizations because they are all usefull things.”
I mean, that’s a skill issue on your side.
Yeah I’m new here if it wasn’t obvious by my prior comment haha
I will say in their defense that some people delete their comments/posts not because they care about “karma” but because they now feel they were wrong and are genuinely embarrassed or think that its continued presence is just an annoyance to other people.
That said, imo, unless you realize you’ve broken a rule in posting it or literally just posted by accident, it’s healthier for yourself and the community to simply e.g. edit in a correction and a “mea culpa”, even if you continue to get dogpiled for it.
I delete them when I don’t have the energy to argue with people online about things. They can be the one terminally online. I’m not chasing them down that rabbit hole. Especially when you get comment after comment replying to you and you know they don’t want to argue in good faith and you’re just signing up to get cyber bullied by a brick wall.
I have, in the several years I’ve been here, deleted only a handful of comments - pretty much exclusively as a result of me being in a terrible mood and/or too drunk and commenting something very stupid or dickish, then reading it the next morning and going “what the fuck was I doing 🤦♂️”. That is thankfully vanishingly rare for me lol
Everyone’s presence is annoying. That’s called being human.
Is there no one in your life whose presence you enjoy?
All the time? Fuck no. Hell, my wife and I love each other in part because we like time alone.
That’s an impossible standard to achieve. Best one can do is become neutral, whatever benefits they bring balances out the burden of dealing with them.
Not who you’re replying to, but…nope.
As someone with social anxiety for some people seeing a large negative social response to something you said or did, even if just abstractly represented by a number, can be pretty distressing 🤷🏻♂️
I generally leave stuff up unless its misleading or something, but I can empathize with why someone would take it down
people not liking them
Half of lemmy:
I’ve had discussions here with people that don’t want down votes, like in YouTube. There are instances that have them disabled.
All around you.
I want to prove I’m not a baby so please downvote this comment.
Edit: please stop you’re hurting my feelings
Downvote my comment, so I can share your pain. I promise I will spend at least five seconds caring.
Me too, go ahead - it doesn’t matter.
What matters is when people scan your post history and check why you were downvoted, given the context of the comment. The community here is smaller, so if you post consistently, you can actually build a meaningful organic reputation (that is: other user’s opinions of you). Karma doesn’t matter. What you post, and how you engage with other users does.
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RESPECTABILITY POLITICS IS EVERYTHINNNNNNGGGG
Is that why??? Oh man I was wondering why some people did that. Deleting their posts before I even have time to reply
I was on reddit for 10 years and have been on lemmy for 3. I’m still not sure what this is really supposed to mean.
There is absolutely a “lifetime” karma score available for users, its just not centered in peoples bios like it is on lemmy. But it absolutely exists…
And if people want to go for high scores more power to them. Get that dopamine where you can queen.
I think their point is that on reddit, life time karma impacts the comment placement order; showing more comments from higher karma accounts. So I guess weirdos would delete comments that started to get negative votes on reddit so they weren’t seen as undesirable by the algorithm.
Also, aren’t there some subreddits that let you post if you have a certain amount of karma?
Elaborate pls. I know Piefed tracks the user’s votes under Attitude, but I’m not aware of tracking of other people’s votes on users posts and comments. Am I missing something?
Total per-account upvotes minus downvotes value is tracked for everyone, it is just hidden by choice in Lemmy. Other softwares have other approaches, Piefed has the “attitude” you mentioned. Kbin used to just show the full “karma” value, I’m not sure if Mbin still does. It doesn’t appeal to me so I don’t keep up with development.
Oh yeah, good point. It’s what lemvotes.org depends on.
Never understood why people would care about how did an invite on pseudo anonymous underground forum.
Deleting a post doesn’t delete the comments, it just makes then undiscoverable/inaccessible. See https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5525
So this problem should be solvable with only changes to client code then?
PieFed allows you to see the comments on deleted posts for exactly this reason.
I figured it was just instances culling old posts without a lot of engagement. I’ve had posts or comments that I’ve made get deleted and I didn’t request them
Internet points aren’t the only reason people delete their posts/comments, though?
I think people should think seriously about deleting posts, but comments that don’t contribute to the discussion for whatever reason definitely have a shelf life.
And that’s aside from the old “a comment you made 10 years ago in another life gets you fired/cancelled” issues due to times changing, some shitlord quoting you out of context, etc, etc.
Not that I care about it, but mBin definitely does have a lifetime reputation score you can find on someone’s profile if you really care to see it
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