The Daily Wire has been going through huge financial struggles which have resulted in many layoffs. However, most didn’t know what happened behind the scenes. The former CEO and co-founder of the company Jeremy Boreign recently revealed the issues with their movie and TV production as a hedge fund looking to buy or partner with the Daily Wire has said it lost $50 million dollars making a anti-woke Game of Thrones.
Was Game of Thrones really that woke? Ive read the series and watched like the first season or so, I don’t really remember anything about the show that would have standed out as woke. If I remember correctly it was mostly white people doing a lot of physical and sexual violence to each other? Chuds usually love that type of stuff.
GRRM is an abolitionist and Dany is his favorite character, and the Targ family motto was used in his earlier writing “Fire and Blood” to describe John Brown’s type of violent abolitionist tactics. The Targaryen family also likely destroyed Valyria because they were abolitionist against the slave empire, with the help of the Faceless Men, and helped found the city of Braavos of freed slaves. Jon’s entire arc is about his wisdom of healing old wounds with the wildlings and reconciling, and letting them south of the wall, and his bigoted small-minded “brothers” betrayed him and stabbed him in the back for it. I believe his arc will also be to reconcile with the white walkers, not destroy them, as they are definitely the ghosts of some old sin of humanities that involved invading the weirwoods and disturbing their spirits. They are nature spirits incarnate, they are described as ghosts that emerge from the wood. They are definitely a stand-in for the sins of humanity against nature coming back with a vengeance and the way to appease them is not through overcoming them with violence but by compromising with them. Giving up some of humanity’s magic back to nature that we had seized with blood sacrifices (I believe the white walkers need to be taken to the Isle of Faces in the God’s Eye where there are Weirwood Trees with Green Leaves that have not been ruined by humanity warging into them and using them for their own ends. Jon will lead the others across the wall to the south just like he did with the wildlings, and he will be hated for it in both cases by those with small minds and small visions. He will probably be stabbed in the back by former allies again just like the first time, with people not realizing what he did or why).
In addition, all the plethora of evil bad guys are total chuds. Tywin, Cersei, King Aerys, Jeoffrey, Viserys Targaryen, Ramsay Bolton, the Mountain, Randal Tarley, the slavers, the Greyjoys, etc. are all shown to be extremely reactionary in their leadership styles and political actions and social views. The more sympathetic and heroic characters like Ned, Jon, Sam, Dany, Robb, Arya, Catelyn and Davos Seaworthy are all very kind and empathic and open-minded people. This is quite clear by their actions and statements and thoughts, as we have many of their PoVs. Tywin allows his troops to pillage and SA openly, he has a ton of reactionary hang-ups with sex and humiliation, he is a total evil piece of shit and you hate him for it. It’s shown clearly to be evil and hypocritical and cruel.
It has strong female characters, both figuratively and literally, and it has a few queer characters. It’s not that woke by any means but it clears the bar at which a right-winger might get mad at it.
That’s such a low bar. No wonder these types of dudes are trying to make divorce illegal. If you can’t handle the idea of a non subservient female character even in a fantasy setting, a woman leaving you and taking half of the assets must be earth shattering.
From what I remember of the show, even the few strong female character’s plots were mainly driven by male characters.
Lol, I just looked it up. Only 18 of the 67 episodes pass the Bechdel test.
It’s such an extremely low bar, but you can fail to clear it based entirely on made up criteria in right wingers’ heads. That one Korean Nier Automata ripoff with the sexy lady character pissed off the chuds by adding roughly 1/8" of cloth to her sexy swimsuit outfit.
And yet soo many of them are morally outraged by pornography. The whole belief system is so inconsistent. At least back before the internet, the conservatives were mostly congruent in their prudishness.
It’s as though the greater conservative movement has just straight up adopted the “it’s about controlling women’s bodies” feminist critique as a mandate.
Yeah… Makes sense. These are the same types who are obsessed with 40k and unironically believe the space Nazi are the good guys despite the adamant denial by the creators.
It’s consistent when you understand that
They had whole secret families back then.
goomba fallacy
Goombas are famous for their hatred of porn.
Uno reverse…Fallacy-naming fallacy
I described the inconsistency of the group as a whole. I didn’t make assumptions about the hypocrisy of the individuals within the group.
the ones mad about stellar blade aren’t the ones doing the porn habit tracking apps with their dad (like the speaker of the house). your “them” collapses the two groups into one, but it only applies to the weirdo christians.
I was more talking about the Incel crowd, many of which are both upset about woke in their video games and also blame the porn industry for their misanthropic lifestyles. Just the other day an Incel tried to shoot up the headquarters of porn hub.
Even if I had been talking about evangelicals, your claim that I was utilizing the goomba fallacy would still be incorrect. The goomba fallacy is when you automatically assume anyone associated with a group that is hypothetical are automatically hypocritical as individuals.
Typically they’re mad specifically about the OnlyFans variety of porn. Displays of feminine sexuality piss them off when it’s the women themselves in control of it.
It’s hard to tell, since it’s unfinished, but the only way the story would make sense is if the white walkers are a metaphor for global warming, and all political conflicts turn out to be irrelevant, because there is no agriculture any more.
Sort of like a more elaborate retelling of uncle teds sheep or goat, parable.
Some people would call that woke.
Well there are women characters that have motivations so that already makes it woke
I failed to consider that.
This is actually true, but since it’s woke it made them white and evil
the hordes of immigrants were the wildlings, and a heroic main character decided on the rational decision to let them all through instead of leaving them to die and become more wights in the army of the dead. then small-minded and short-sighted bigoted traitors stabbed him in the back for saving mankind.
I mean, judging by the grr martin books I’ve read that seems unlikely. The dude seems to just really like writing about magic, dragons, and messy political intrigue.
nah he’s woke. he’s a hardcore hippy and has a radical and revolutionary heart to his story, which will not result in a reset to status quo but in a radical new “bittersweet” ending and new stage in development of westerosi history. that is, if he ever finishes it, which i’m 50/50 on
I don’t doubt that his writings feature revolution, the whole saga is pretty thick with political intrigue that calls back to a lot of European history. I just wouldn’t go as far to claim the white walkers were a direct allegory to climate change. To me it would make more sense for them to represent an inevitable political eventuality.
It would be nice to ever be proven right or wrong, but I’m not holding my breath in regards to him actually wrapping up the series himself. Writing is a miserable process for a lot of authors and I don’t really see him giving up all the fun he’s having to slave away at a keyboard, and tbh I don’t blame him at all.
Imo he’s probably got a good outline to wrap out the series that he’s going to give to a trusted friend/author to finish once he’s gone, kinda like Sanderson with the Wheel of Time .
there’s literal magical climate change integral to the central plot and they are nature spirits that herald the climate change. it’s really not a stretch
I think it’s a fair interpretation, but i don’t think it really fits thematically with the history in books. I mean, a lot of the books are about how cycles of interpersonal and political conflict recreate cycles of destructive and prosperous times through history.
Climate change would fit more if the white walkers hadn’t been a reoccurring problem. Plus, if the children of the woods represent nature, and the walkers represent climate change, the walkers turning on nature makes the allegory a bit convoluted.
I have a surprise for you about the children of the forest. They are on team other, as in they seek the same reconciliation and peace that the others do - only consciously and with a thousand year plan instead of just raw instinct. The destruction of climate change also hurts and damages the ecological terrorists and green movements
Other team? From what I remember they fought against humans and then made a pact with them and were mostly wiped out by the walkers. I don’t really know if you could qualify them as on a specific team. Again, I have a hard time seeing how this is a coherent allegory about climate change.
He’s also just an asshole rich guy, buying up half of Santa Fe. Maybe the guy really used to be a “hardcore hippy”, but in the way that they mostly turned into rich annoying boomers, so has grrm, except he’s more than the usual amout of wealthy, and has bought a train, a movie theatre, and various other Santa Fe institutions, pissing off the people living in Santa Fe in the process.
No, I don’t like grrm, and don’t believe there’s anything “woke” or “revolutionary” about him. Maybe his books are good, I liked them when I read them a decade ago, but I haven’t revisited them and likely won’t unless he actually finishes the series, which I’m quite certain he won’t
I just looked up your claims and you are full of shit btw. He doesn’t “own half of Santa Fe” he has invested money in 3 local businesses to keep them afloat (a bar, a bookstore and a cinema) and helped restore a historic rail line that was in ruins. He helps cultural charities and nonprofits. He lives in a modest house.
I think you read one hit piece on him and just made up your mind. None of this is damning and is probably the most benign rich people stuff imaginable. Engels did worse stuff than this lmao.
any wildly successful author is going to become rich, are we just setting the bar that no great author will ever be “good”? Can you not let the art stand alone? Just going to hand all popular media and art over to chuds to own?
Besides, buying a train and movie theater is exactly what 99% of users here would do if they suddenly came into wealth, not sure why you’re saying that like it’s a crime
Such a shame
That’s how I always read it but I (understandably, imo) basically always read any existential threat as a climate metaphor.
the first ever sentence describing them in the prologue of the first book is “A shadow emerged from the dark of the wood.”
It’s a literal shadow of the wood, a tree spirit. Weirwood spirits haunting mankind for their past sins, the consequences of old blood magic boiling over. Couldn’t be more on the nose as a climate metaphor when it’s nature blowback.
I agree, but it’s difficult to reconcile it with the first book coming out in '96 when climate change wasn’t really on most people’s radar imo.
he’s a big hippy and was active in ecology circles, he’s also extremely well read and actively made an erratic and changing climate a major plot-point of the series
it has non-whites and non-straights not cast as villains, so it’s basically the communist manifesto.
im sure the daily wanker version would be 10, 1 hour episodes of a crusader knight doing a nazi salute to a giant, flaming cross.
Don’t forget the part where they save the blonde hair, blue eyed, virgin, historical trad wife with a huge rack from a lustful turk.
It’s times like these when we need UlyssesT
no one has ever needed to touch grass more tho