• alapakala@quokk.au
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    2 months ago

    pretty sure tankies in threadiverse have nothing to do with ML theory.
    I lean black simply because I am aware disabilities persist, and vanguarding is required until we are all reenabled. Until we are all empowered, none are.

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      2 months ago

      pretty sure tankies in threadiverse have nothing to do with ML theory.

      I disagree. Many share important ideological things such as democratic centralism and many use the same talking points offline MLs use to defend their favorite states. In practice they also always seem to fall back to ML approaches when asked about what to do.

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        2 months ago

        bruv, reread what I commented.
        We can seize the memes of Marx-Leninism without praxing the acts.
        Black anarchism is ML praxis, but more about empowering each other, than excommunicating people for contrivances.
        e.g. Blåhaj is an ML instance, but Nexus Ancap. This doesn’t mean they need to defederate and gulag each other.

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          2 months ago

          Hmm maybe we are just not getting each other. I feel like I precisely replied to a part of your comment, but you seem to think I really missed the point.

          Black anarchism is ML praxis

          To me this doesnt make sense, and from a hlance your links dont seem to be able to explain that to me. Doesnt mean its not there, just that I dont get it. I connect ML praxis with hierarchical, authoritarian and exclusionary organizing and I dont see that really reflected in your link.

          e.g. Blåhaj is an ML instance, but Nexus Ancap.

          I wouldnt describe those instances with those words, but I think we also just use them differently

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            2 months ago

            I connect ML praxis with hierarchical, authoritarian and exclusionary organizing and I dont see that really reflected in your link.

            Thoust needs more reading.
            MLs are horizontal, vanguardian and inclusionary when organizing. They just are more aware some folks excel at vanguarding better than direct actors, aiders, intersecters, solidarity, etc. etc… Not everyone is Superman, but I can definitively trust Lois Lane can get her hands on the list of the Legion of Doom’s secret addresses, or say Superboy intersecting with many people in a rally. Awareness of how people excel at other things over other things is just being aware people are different. And MLs accept those facts are real, and need to be accounted when organizing anything.

            We are no longer going to talk about tankies, I pray.

            I wouldnt describe those instances with those words, but I think we also just use them differently.

            I exemplified praxis over meming. The rules are in place for actual enforcements. “Influence” here meaning actually mimicking Joseph Stalin for enforcing his views over all. e.g. “I would hate to gulag you for ‘wrongthink’”