• Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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    10 days ago

    I refuse to continue the “lesser evil” BS that got us here. Either the Dems put up actual progressives (and not the crap like Biden that people like to praise as “the most progressive president”) or don’t whine when people like me look elsewhere at the ballot box. Third party candidates actually do the legwork in red states to get votes unlike Dem presidential candidates.

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      10 days ago

      Congratulations on sticking to your purity test and voting third party. Look at all the third party members in Congress and the white house… Oh wait.

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        10 days ago

        Considering, again, I live in a deep red state my vote for anyone outside conservatives matters about the same. So I might as well stick with who I actually want representing me and not just representing who I slightly less prefer murdering.

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          10 days ago

          You know, in 2024 there was some talk about whether to dispute the results of the election. But people saw that you’d chosen to let Trump win the popular vote, so they figured you wanted Trump to win, and they didn’t bother to demand a recount.

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            10 days ago

            Even if everyone who voted third party voted for Harris, she still wouldn’t have won the popular vote, and that’s assuming all of them would have voted Harris and not Trump if forced like beyond at gunpoint (somehow like they can’t even pick to just be shot) which is extremely unlikely.

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              10 days ago

              If everyone who voted for Biden had voted for Harris, she would have won the popular vote. In 2024, there were more abstainers like you.

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                Who said I abstained? I literally said I voted third party and was discussing third party voters. Why are you now needing to include people who don’t vote at all? I voted third party in 2020 also so it’s not like the Dems lost my vote between those years.

                • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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                  10 days ago

                  In FPTP, voting for a third party – even when it’s some major figure like Ross Perot or Bull Moose Teddy Roosevelt – is doing the same as abstaining.

                  By voting defensively we can control the damage. But we’re obligated to do more than just vote.

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                    9 days ago

                    Voting defensively is how we got here. Too many view voting as all they can do and any talk about doing more is viewed as too radical and annoying. If someone votes third party, but works to organize then I’d say they’re doing more than the vast amount of Americans.

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                9 days ago

                If everyone who voted for Biden had voted for Harris, she would have won the popular vote.

                And if Biden had kept his campaign promises instead of just supporting genocide like you and every other centrist wanted, his VP might have had a record worth running on.

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          I vote for progressive candidates in the primary. For example, I voted for Bernie in the primary both times.

          Morons like you however appear to not vote in primaries. Most of you idiot “both sides” fucks don’t even know what they are. Very surprising to hear that from you. Then again, if you knew what they were then you wouldn’t have accused me of voting for the centrist, which I assume you did since that’s all you idiots parrot.