Eh, the point still stands, that is the level of absolue shittyness we are talking about. If we account for the backgrounds these people come from it makes the gap even wider.
I doubt the average American has been convicted of a violent crime and has multiple drug addictions but somehow you think that’s a moral judgement and not simple fact.
when selecting any single person there are multiple things about them that are not average (plays violin/is gay/has 3 cats/…) yet we would still denote them as average people. So it very much does feel like the difference is a moral judgement
Well the last violent crime he committed was in 2007 (aggrevated robbery) for which he got out at 2013 and seems like he managed to turn his life around by working two jobs but then probably succumbed to poverty after he lost them both in 2020 COVID pandemic. All these pretty understandable given that Lloyd had a pretty poor childhood, if you want to find the average in him. So a description of the type “violent criminal” looks more like a MAGA rhetoric at this point rather than a refined understanding of the situation.
Charlie Kirk, on the other hand, was coming from an extremely privileged background and had every reason to be a decent person but yet somehow managed to turn himself into a turd of collosal magnitude. So yeah “even more innocent” doesn’t begin to explain the difference.
“even more innocent” doesn’t even begin to cover the difference between a bigoted, sexist fascist turd and an average guy.
You think your average guy is a convicted felon with meth and fent addiction?
Eh, the point still stands, that is the level of absolue shittyness we are talking about. If we account for the backgrounds these people come from it makes the gap even wider.
I’ve not made any comparison with Kirk.
Simply pointing out that your average man does not have a history as a violent criminal and drug addict.
Literally yes
wow, he had an addiction? that’s crazy. surely having an addiction makes you evil, surely.
I doubt the average American has been convicted of a violent crime and has multiple drug addictions but somehow you think that’s a moral judgement and not simple fact.
when selecting any single person there are multiple things about them that are not average (plays violin/is gay/has 3 cats/…) yet we would still denote them as average people. So it very much does feel like the difference is a moral judgement
If he was just a little more rapey, he coulda been president!
Or a pedophile!
I would trust my Floyd with kids before I trusted Kirk.
Okay? I don’t see what that’s got to do with someone thinking an average American is both a violent criminal and drug addict.
Well the last violent crime he committed was in 2007 (aggrevated robbery) for which he got out at 2013 and seems like he managed to turn his life around by working two jobs but then probably succumbed to poverty after he lost them both in 2020 COVID pandemic. All these pretty understandable given that Lloyd had a pretty poor childhood, if you want to find the average in him. So a description of the type “violent criminal” looks more like a MAGA rhetoric at this point rather than a refined understanding of the situation.
Charlie Kirk, on the other hand, was coming from an extremely privileged background and had every reason to be a decent person but yet somehow managed to turn himself into a turd of collosal magnitude. So yeah “even more innocent” doesn’t begin to explain the difference.
In this society, yes.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13524-017-0611-1
Best source I’ve found so far. Doesn’t sound like your average person is a felon.
What percentage of felons are drug addicts is another factor so even less of the population fit this twisted view of an average man.