they immediately fold and go back to labour (also restore is more fash reform)
I think Corbyn fucking up the new party with Sultana is a big part of the left having no momentum. Initially bringing people in and then immediately alienating them through incoherence and infighting just leaves people exhausted.
Tbh this is both a historical labour stronghold with a long term well liked mp with a lot of name recognition, the possibility of a reform take over and an anti-starmer vote all bundled into one so it’s understandable how this happened
was it not a labour stronghold in 2024? not only greens not gained, they lost 5/6 of their own vote
greens were never going to win makerfield, it was a vote between furthering the destabilisation of labour vs empowering reform. At best the greens could have beat out the conservatives for fourth place.
Were 1776 green voters unaware in 2024?
yes, the situation was different in 2024, Andy Burnham was just another fairly popular labour guy and not a lightning rod for screwing up the inside of the labour party with constant infighting for the next few years
Greens and Libdems basically didn’t campaign, and why would they, neither even won council seats there this year.
gotta remember the greens are still growing into a contender and can’t mobilize heaps of resources and personnel every time they’re standing candidates
UK voting is First Past the Post, right? So it’s expected that they’ll only have 2 parties due to strategic voting.
Despite being FPTP, UK has three main parties in England, a fourth big party in Scotland, and two completely different main parties in northern Ireland.
This is because UK politics does not follow any logic whatsoever.
Wait, who thought the Brits were going to recover?
When have they ever done anything good?
I hoped they would break the labour’s back to make fun of americans and they did do pal action like those radicals of yore (20 years ago animal rights activists), instead of petitions
I admire your optimism, comrade.
incredible from fedcobin (uk)
call it cope if you like, but the greens did a huge amount of community outreach for hannah spencer in gorton & denton (i live nowhere near there and was getting multiple emails per day from the greens about going over and doing some flyering and door knocking) and did very little for makerfield (i haven’t had a single email). i was under the impression that those who call themselves “the left” were voting tactically to beat reform rather than to dunk on labour, mostly because there are a significant number of people who will continue to vote labour by default since they’ve historically been the least bad option. though, admittedly, it would have been extremely funny if the greens had worked hard and burnham had lost.
the guy refuses to even call gaza siege a genocide, supported iraq war, wants more military spending, and amount of people thinking it’s bad around 1%, because some boutique reasons like sturmer must go (replace him with sturmer 2.0). genuinely, what one member swapping to reform even harm, they have super majority in the government.
oh i’m not disputing that he’s absolute filth and that whether he or keith run labour makes very little material difference. but i suppose, in a way, it might be good for burnham to become pm so that labour voters with short memories can see in real-time that burnham is as bad as starmer and perhaps get closer to realising that it’s not just one guy, but the whole of labour who are just as much our class enemy as reform. but idk, maybe i am coping.
what the heck is restore
People who used to do write ins for Hitler basically
rally to restore sanity, centers around late night show hosts /s
(i’ve mentioned in the post, more fash farage)
since when is farage not fash enough
You see, it’s because he’s not explicitly (only implicitly) advocating for death sqauds to roam the streets and kill non-whites, that means he’s compromised by woke!
