• artyom@piefed.social
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    Peak charge speeds are only 10-80%

    1. Peak charge rates vary by vehicle, but most are <10%

    2. You may have missed that we were discussing faster charging speeds.

    Headwinds matter a lot. Stay above 20% for safety

    Any decent trip planner is going to account for headwinds. The 10% arrival accounts for margins of error in those calculations.

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      Any decent trip planner is going to account for headwinds.

      Headwinds are a weather thing. They can change dramatically at any moment. Trip planers only guestimate that kind of thing. And with a trailer having the arodynamics of a kite, they have a much greater effect on the trailer.

      The 10% arrival accounts for margins of error in those calculations.

      Only given the make and model you entered. The flying rectangle you’re towing isn’t part of those calculations. So it’ll have additional drag from the start, eating up that margin of error quickly.

      All of this was covered in the article.

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        Trip planners do not “guesstimate”, they tap into realtime data.

        The trailer is covered in the estimate as well.

        Once again, I don’t need to read a third hand account about this. I’ve lived it.

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          It’s a gusstimate until you start driving. Then it might get real time data from the vehicle performance, not the weather. And only if you can give it access to the vehicle data. If the guesstimate is too far off, and there aren’t any closer chargers, your route planer gets you stranded.

          In the article they discovered this, and had to give the route planner false data until its guesstimates lined up with their real results.

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            It’s a gusstimate until you start driving. Then it might get real time data from the vehicle performance not the weather.

            Wrong. It gets it from weather reports. If they used something else in their testing, that’s their mistake, and no one will force you to make it as well.

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              Weather reports themselves are a guesstimate. You can’t precisely predict the specific gusts in a specific spot on a specific road.

              They were using ABRP as they knew GMaps sucked for this.

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                  That’s what a guesstimate is. A guess based on some actual data that’s still not all that reliable. It’s a bit of word play that acts as a reminder that an estimate is often wrong.

                  We account for wind speed and temperature changes that impact your range in real-time.

                  Tell me what they’re talking about. Because that’s just generic marketing speak. What’s it actually mean? How’s that work, exactly?

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                    Tell me what they’re talking about. Because that’s just generic marketing speak.

                    What? LOL this is not complicated. They take wind speeds from weather reports and estimate the impact on efficiency using the known aerodynamics of the vehicle.