I’m no history buff so I am unable to come up with specific examples, but IMHO this has always been the way of the human race. America has just been the most powerful bully on the block for the last century or two. Seemingly soon, it’ll be someone else. History is littered with this shit because humans are still animals at heart, and will be for the foreseeable future. They unfortunately have just enough intelligence to come up with extremely destructive capabilities, but not enough to keep the biggest bullies from using them.
But it hasn’t always been like this. America has been at war for all but five years since the end of WWII. That is utterly unprecedented. They actually are worse than everyone else.
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but IMHO this has always been the way of the human race.
Totally dude when that fucking chud Columbus came:
Christopher Columbus described the Native peoples (the Taíno) as handsome, peaceful, and generous. However, he immediately viewed them as intellectually inferior and economically exploitable, noting in his journals that their friendly nature meant they would make “good servants” and could easily be subjugated.
Damn look at those fucking natives trying to start a war…
As I’ve just said in another reply, I’m done with this. However, not to leave you completely hanging, here’s similar behaviors in Chinese history. We are all humans, and we all do the same kinds of shit.
Absolutely bullshit. The country has been at war for its entire existence. You don’t have to be a history buff to know that PEACE is a thing that most countries, even the shitty empires, all engaged in at one point or another. The US does not know peace, it divides the entire planet up into operational zones and engages in constant warfare and influence on every single part of the planet.
The quantity and density of atrocities the US has committed are completely unprecedented in the history of the world. If you doubt that, have a scroll.
China is rising to become the new world leader and it has engaged in NONE of that while building a socialist state and rising to the top. It does not exist by destroying, dominating and exploiting the world.
Yeah, I’m quite sure you’re wearing blinders when it comes to both wars and human rights, but I’m not interested in arguing with you because I agree America has definitely been shitty and I’m not going to be cornered into trying to defend that when I don’t have the conviction to.
The bigger picture - if you’re honest enough with yourself to look at it with an unbiased eye - is that despite cultural differences we are all of the same species with the same variety of personality types, which means similar propensities towards certain behaviors.
Feel free to shout me down further, I’m done here because I’m not terribly interested in debating subjects that aren’t my area of interest with someone who’s obviously passionately biased about them. I think I’ve shown in my prior responses that I try to be as fair as I can be, while you feel very much like an enraged zealot who isn’t self-aware enough to do the same, so I’m done here.
You’re not wrong, but no one wants to hear that story. Capitalism and exploitation, from one nation or the other. America is so bad until you remember the East India Trading Company was a thing. That’s not to minimize America’s actions. It’s rather to recognize, as I think you’re trying to, the class struggle.
This is fucking ridiculous. China has not been in a war for over 50 years you fucking idiot. US bombs are committing a literal genocide in Gaza as we speak. US bombs are dropping in Lebanon. US bombs are dropping in Iran. The US kidnapped a democratically elected president. The US is about to invade Cuba. That’s just in the last 2 fucking years.
You’re an idiot. You’re completely propagandised. You don’t care about facts, you’re purely vibes based. You probably think Russia is worse than the US despite the fact that a side by side comparison of the last 20 years would demonstrate otherwise. Or even just the last 5 years. I say 20 because you’d probably behave like the US is better under democrats when it’s absolutely not. Obama bombed weddings just as much as Trump bombs bridges and hospitals, Biden happily pledged more and more bombs to the Gaza genocide, etc etc.
You’re a dickhead. You squeal about being unbiased when you’re the most biased person in the fucking room because you’re literally the only nationalist in here, the rest of us are all internationalists. You’re a piggy stuck in your vibes-based propaganda box while insisting you’re not propagandised. You’re in Plato’s cave insisting the shadows are reality while getting angry at me for screaming at you to just look outside.
Wah wah wah the communists were mean to me after I came into their space spouting nationalist nonsense. Cry me a river.
You’re demanding respect but you’ve said nothing that deserves any. If you behaved in a way that was open minded, you would get a much more academic conversation. You however are not open minded in the slightest, you are indistinguishable from the nationalist fuckheads of any country. I can’t tell the difference between your responses about America and an Israeli’s responses about Israel. You are the same.
It deserves no respect at all while you’re like this. You are emotionally attached to this national entity and you will defend it forever because you’re a supremacist that believes in its supremacy. If you ever disentangle yourself from those brainworms I will be quite happy to have a conversation with a normal non-nationalist version of you, but I don’t think you’re going to get there for a while, you sound like your brain has been quite thoroughly cooked in the nationalist oven.
Behave in a manner that deserves respect and you’ll get it.
And anyone that makes such a claim in earnest is really just saying “I am fundamentally evil” because they cannot speak for the entirety of humanity, and it’s highly unlikely another species suddenly learned English and figured out how to post on a Lemmy instance.
The bigger picture - if you’re honest enough with yourself to look at it with an unbiased eye - is that despite cultural differences we are all of the same species with the same variety of personality types, which means similar propensities towards certain behaviors.
I’m no history buff so I am unable to come up with specific examples, but IMHO this has always been the way of the human race. America has just been the most powerful bully on the block for the last century or two. Seemingly soon, it’ll be someone else. History is littered with this shit because humans are still animals at heart, and will be for the foreseeable future. They unfortunately have just enough intelligence to come up with extremely destructive capabilities, but not enough to keep the biggest bullies from using them.
But it hasn’t always been like this. America has been at war for all but five years since the end of WWII. That is utterly unprecedented. They actually are worse than everyone else.
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" I. NO INVESTIGATION, NO RIGHT TO SPEAK
Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn’t that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?
It won’t do!
It won’t do!
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Totally dude when that fucking chud Columbus came:
Damn look at those fucking natives trying to start a war…
Nobody tell this guy about the Pirahã, or Catalhoyuk, or the Indus Valley Civilization
As I’ve just said in another reply, I’m done with this. However, not to leave you completely hanging, here’s similar behaviors in Chinese history. We are all humans, and we all do the same kinds of shit.
I guess actions of warlords means everyone must be a POS like you?
I’m a POS because I don’t grovel at your obviously “superior” arguments? Get real.
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Personal attacks because you can’t win an argument are a sign of failure.
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Absolutely bullshit. The country has been at war for its entire existence. You don’t have to be a history buff to know that PEACE is a thing that most countries, even the shitty empires, all engaged in at one point or another. The US does not know peace, it divides the entire planet up into operational zones and engages in constant warfare and influence on every single part of the planet.
The quantity and density of atrocities the US has committed are completely unprecedented in the history of the world. If you doubt that, have a scroll.
China is rising to become the new world leader and it has engaged in NONE of that while building a socialist state and rising to the top. It does not exist by destroying, dominating and exploiting the world.
Yeah, I’m quite sure you’re wearing blinders when it comes to both wars and human rights, but I’m not interested in arguing with you because I agree America has definitely been shitty and I’m not going to be cornered into trying to defend that when I don’t have the conviction to.
The bigger picture - if you’re honest enough with yourself to look at it with an unbiased eye - is that despite cultural differences we are all of the same species with the same variety of personality types, which means similar propensities towards certain behaviors.
Feel free to shout me down further, I’m done here because I’m not terribly interested in debating subjects that aren’t my area of interest with someone who’s obviously passionately biased about them. I think I’ve shown in my prior responses that I try to be as fair as I can be, while you feel very much like an enraged zealot who isn’t self-aware enough to do the same, so I’m done here.
Goodnight.
You’re not wrong, but no one wants to hear that story. Capitalism and exploitation, from one nation or the other. America is so bad until you remember the East India Trading Company was a thing. That’s not to minimize America’s actions. It’s rather to recognize, as I think you’re trying to, the class struggle.
There’s zero chance that’s what they were trying to do.
And yes, they’re wrong. Embarrassingly so.
Rare moment of a child recognizing they’re up past their bedtime.
Goodnight!
This is fucking ridiculous. China has not been in a war for over 50 years you fucking idiot. US bombs are committing a literal genocide in Gaza as we speak. US bombs are dropping in Lebanon. US bombs are dropping in Iran. The US kidnapped a democratically elected president. The US is about to invade Cuba. That’s just in the last 2 fucking years.
You’re an idiot. You’re completely propagandised. You don’t care about facts, you’re purely vibes based. You probably think Russia is worse than the US despite the fact that a side by side comparison of the last 20 years would demonstrate otherwise. Or even just the last 5 years. I say 20 because you’d probably behave like the US is better under democrats when it’s absolutely not. Obama bombed weddings just as much as Trump bombs bridges and hospitals, Biden happily pledged more and more bombs to the Gaza genocide, etc etc.
You’re a dickhead. You squeal about being unbiased when you’re the most biased person in the fucking room because you’re literally the only nationalist in here, the rest of us are all internationalists. You’re a piggy stuck in your vibes-based propaganda box while insisting you’re not propagandised. You’re in Plato’s cave insisting the shadows are reality while getting angry at me for screaming at you to just look outside.
I’ve often thought that misanthropy is just license to be complacent in the face of injustice, and this guy is doing nothing to convince me otherwise
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Wah wah wah the communists were mean to me after I came into their space spouting nationalist nonsense. Cry me a river.
You’re demanding respect but you’ve said nothing that deserves any. If you behaved in a way that was open minded, you would get a much more academic conversation. You however are not open minded in the slightest, you are indistinguishable from the nationalist fuckheads of any country. I can’t tell the difference between your responses about America and an Israeli’s responses about Israel. You are the same.
It deserves no respect at all while you’re like this. You are emotionally attached to this national entity and you will defend it forever because you’re a supremacist that believes in its supremacy. If you ever disentangle yourself from those brainworms I will be quite happy to have a conversation with a normal non-nationalist version of you, but I don’t think you’re going to get there for a while, you sound like your brain has been quite thoroughly cooked in the nationalist oven.
Behave in a manner that deserves respect and you’ll get it.
Do you just not understand that you’re basically saying “humans are fundamentally evil”?
And anyone that makes such a claim in earnest is really just saying “I am fundamentally evil” because they cannot speak for the entirety of humanity, and it’s highly unlikely another species suddenly learned English and figured out how to post on a Lemmy instance.
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wtf kind of apologist bullshit is this?
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You’re handwaving away atrocities with a “it’s just human nature” excuse. This is apologist and defeatist.
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This answer is indistinguishable from any member of the IDF, it’s pure nationalist sophistry.
Damn…what did they say as it was removed?
marx failed to consider the most ignorant of truisms apparently
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