Surely this is another GOP psyop! I know some folks on here were sure the last one was, after all

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        The problem with Ryan is that apparently he knew Platner from when he was a bartender in DC. We should know from Bernie 2020 how much being “good friends” with someone can warp your judgement dem

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        Ryan Grim has been a bad take machine lately. What is with these journalists that start out with good positions always devolving into chuddery and crankery? Taibi, Blumenthal, Grim, etc.

        There seems to be a type. Why is it so rare to find any principled journalist in the alt journalism western world? Only ones I can think of in the “alt” sphere that haven’t embarrassed themselves are Richard Medhurst (admirable for standing up against legal pressure and trumped up terrorism charges from 2 countries) and Ben Norton. I guess that’s your answer right there, if you stick to your guns and say the truth no matter what they law cracks down on you or you get kicked to the curb from your job.

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      Sanders is the one who comes out of looking this most like a chump I think. He very vocally protected him on the nazi tattoo issue, using his jewishness as a shield. They are very closely tied together in the public consciousness of anybody that knows about Platner.

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      This is a massive L for Hasan and he’s gotta own up to it but when were the chapo boys doing anything to support this piece of shit or his campaign?

      All they’ve done is make fun of what a weird chud this guy is, they were literally calling him a “wokeremoved” even before this came out due to his reddit comments about how he fantasized about SAing a hypothetical burglar who broke into his home and how he explained in said comments that he isn’t gay becauseremoved is about power

      Maybe it wasn’t the most principled leftist criticism of this war criminal piece of shit but it sure as hell wasn’t an endorsement

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        when were the chapo boys doing anything to support this piece of shit or his campaign?

        Will endorsed him. Iirc Felix said getting a nazi tattoo is disqualifying. Because either you’re a nazi or you’re not smart enough to hold office.

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        CTH downplayed criticism of him being a blackwater merc and having a nazi tattoo, they definitely had a “I don’t give a shit about these issues and neither should you, hold the line and vote progressive” subtext

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          I recall Felix saying he didn’t think the guy was actually a Nazi, just a dumbass, based on his reddit posting history, and Matt saying that nobody would give a shit about his dumb sexting habit if he wasn’t critical of Israel. But they also say “the book Settlers was basically written for this guy” in reference to him bringing up his tour with the Marines in a debate. I don’t recall if any of them every actually endorsed voting for him.

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            Will Menaker endorsed voting for him explicitly. He’s obviously a nazi, he had a croat nazi tattoo from a parlor that was full of SS bolts and swastikas (I know what croat tattoo parlors are like that offer totenkompfs to US Marines). That’s on top of him volunteering for private mercenary groups. Felix should know better than to downplay this shit.

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            saying he didn’t think the guy was actually a Nazi, just a dumbass

            I’ve just been posting this everywhere:

            From Mein Kampf vol. 2, Chapter VII: The Struggle with the Red Front

            Never give nazis the benefit of the doubt. They say the wrong things on purpose. The nazis of today have disciplined themselves to “hide your power level.” Maybe some dumbass gets caught in the crossfire, not realizing what fascists do to infiltrate enemy organizations. But that’s exactly what a nazi would say to avoid getting punched in the face. Too fucking bad if you got the wrong tattoo by mistake.

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              To be clear I never defended the guy. I had no idea who he was till the Nazi tattoo thing came out, and I was maybe inclined to give some slight benefit of the doubt then because of his anti-Zionism but the second I learned he was in Blackwater I quickly dropped that.

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        Will said “If I lived in Maine I would still vote for him.”

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMZkm7qi3OI

        I can imagine if someone wanted to hear what they want to hear, they might point out that they’re shitting on him plenty. But if you listen to this critically, you will notice it’s mostly excuses. They seem completely unbothered by that guy’s platform, saying they’re “cool with it”, despite Platner’s platform being liberal Hitler.

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    The guy is a former Blackwater merc who worked at Abu Ghraib. Of course he knew what his tattoo meant, of course he came back from the Imperial Torture Megadungeon as a domestic abuser and of course you can’t be left alone in the same room with him when you’re a woman (or a burglar apparently). A week before the election, we’ll see a picture where he drinks beer out of a human skull or whatever and people will still go all surprised pikachu because they do not get that all of that directly follows from his history in the “warcrime as a service” industry.

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        More like a small handful of the most bernard-loving electoralists that make every thread on him go to 500+ comments by doing the “if you don’t support him you support zionist DNC candidate instead” and “I don’t like him but lesser evil and this is rightwing hit pieces!”

        I can name names and link threads if you want, but that generally has gotten me in trouble

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          Nah I don’t need links. I believe you lol.

          Just generally I saw Platner-negative trends in things, so I was a little confused. But a few diehard holdouts, yeah, I can see that. Every cause has them.

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        There’s one extremely vocal supporter in particular who will accuse you of being a Zionist for opposing him (do you want Collins to win? She’s worse!!!, despite Platner literally being a racist mass murderer) and will distort theory to support him more generally, and a few others who are less insufferable about it. What I do see more often are people who seem to genuinely hate the guy but still regard him as the lesser of two evils, which is more understandable if still poor analysis (given his open support for imperialism and that he is a democrat the chance he will move the needle on Israel is negative but the chances he will actually expand American imperial efforts elsewhere are very, very good).

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    I, for one, am shocked - SHOCKED - that a Nazi would do something so uncouth! You really can’t trust anyone these days…

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    i guess we’ll find out how much clout this guy has with the establishment. is he joe biden levels of #metoo resistant or is he just another eric swalwell?

    i don’t buy his insurgent progressive brand. i think he’s one phone call from obama away from being in lockstep with the democrat agenda. so maybe he survives this. also fuck thisremoved nazi, he can go shuck oysters in hell.

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      He lost Emma Vigeland, Hasan disowned him immediately on hearing the news (but refuses to really go in depth unless I’ve missed something), I’m sure his other high profile backers will follow. Just goes to show why a party org nominating vetted candidates is so necessary, I’m skeptical of all of these non-DSA “left populists” (and even the DSA ones, though less so)

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        American supremacists the lot of them. That guy proudly committed war crimes against Iraqis and Afghans. Probablyremovedd them too, as is the custom for US troops. But now they’re changing their tune??? Fucking disgusting racist pieces of shit.