• EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    The moron that wrote this up sure is out of touch with young people. They really think these opinions will embarrass future generations? HA!

    The author’s disagreement with these statements is already an embarrassment to their children. This is why you’re not welcome at Thanksgiving, dipshit.

    • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      “Nationalization” is really just a shorthand abbreviation for “ownership by the workers of the means of production.” In the case of the USSR / China, the state owned enterprises on behalf of the workers. If Canada, the USA, and Central America all merged into the United Socialist States of America (post-revolution), I’m sure we could have no borders and also nationalized industry at the same time.

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        I think in general, the term “collectivization” is a lot more useful (and accurate) than “nationalization.” The point is to expel the rent seeking monopolies and place infrastructure under democratic control. Nationalization emphasizes putting infrastructure in the hands of the state, and under a dictatorship of capital it is difficult to pitch this as a beneficial thing. NOBODY likes Comcast, but you will have a hard time convincing them that the Great Satan itself would provide a better, more trustworthy Internet service. On the other hand, collectivization emphasizes putting infrastructure in the hands of the people. It implies a transformational process of democratic control while nationalization only implies a shallow change in ownership.

        While it doesn’t happen frequently in the present era, nationalization is not a distinctly Communist process. Industries have been nationalized under Capitalist governance. We nationalized Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 2008, but it had nothing to do with placing the financial system under democratic control. More recently, the US government acquired a 10% stake in Intel, but this is done for the purpose of boosting a US-aligned monopoly and supplier of vital components for the military industrial complex, not to impose democratic mandates or regulations on the development of computer chips.

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Do I think USPS could do a better job of managing the national internet infrastructure than Cox, Optimum, Mediacom or CenturyLink? Absolutely.

          Do I think the Department of Energy would be able to fuck up less than PG&E or Duke Energy? Again, yeah.

          Do I think the FCC could do a better job at… Okay, maybe not them.

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        Why would latin american countries ever join up with their gringo oppressors (or former oppressors)?

        URSAL o muerte!

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      One of the three Mamdani - endorsed DSA-backed candidates who won their primaries for Congress in NYC last night.

      You thought the malding of AOC and Ilhan and Zohran were bad? get ready for a new wave with DAC and others coming onboard. I think the better 10-20% of the DSAers are going to make Mamdani look like Ted Cruz. Not to say they will be truly effective at building socialism through the bourgeois electoral/political system, just looking forward to the establishment meltdown as they gain ground

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      She’s about to become the most left wing member of US congress that’s probably ever been elected.

      Which I mean, we’re grading on a US scale, but it’s still pretty nice. It’s a very strong position to agitate from and boost other movements.

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    The only one of these that is even potentially anything other than unfathomably cool is the last one, and that only because of the word “ugly”. Even there, the core sentiment is correct but bringing looks into it is unnecessary.